Follow The Bouncing Pip

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bigbear3391
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bigbear3391  

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UPDATE 12/03/2007

Hello all,

First I want to thank all of you for the support. Forex11 & I never thought this would take of they way it did. Thank you.

Now down to business. As I said somewhere on this thread I would only be updating this original method with any new additions once I was satisfied with its performance & it still adhered to our K.I.S.S. methodology. So officialy I will be adding the MFI (Money Flow Index) with 80/20 settings. I will be & have been testing certain indis & possibly will be updating again in the near future. I would like to ask Forex11 (Co-Creator FTC) if he would like to post his methodology. Below is screen shots of the my current methodology.

I have 3 charts set up. A 30M, 1HR & 4HR.

If I see a signal like this:

I move on to the 1HR. Then I see this:

I move on to the 4HR & then I see this:

So as you can see I look for confirmation on all 3 charts. You can always take it off the 1Hr if you like but I prefer the 4 HR. When you see all 3 its a super strong indicator that it will go in that direction. Thats how I trade it. Simple & straight forward.

As for exits & stoploss. To make it simple if you use a 1HR GBP/JPY I reccomend at least 75 pip SL. on the 4 HR a 200 pip SL. As for exits you can use the next signal or a profit point of your choosing. As for me I use the MFI to see how close its being overbought/oversold, look for upcoming news that my affect your trade & to make sure my risk reward is at least 2-1. Never risk more that what you will gain. Put bluntly its stupid.

The indis below are the indis im using & the TPL. You must use the same indis I use otherwise the TPL wont work. But you can always just add the indis as well.

Take Care & good luck.

Bear-

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Hey All,

I was trying to get help making an EA out of this & it was suggested that I post it here so people will get comfy with it.

Before I get into it I have a few things to say.....

Yes you will lose.

But with proper money management & practice you can do pretty good.

All the tools needed are available for download. This system only works on MT4 brokers.

Heres how it works.

On a 1 hour (aggressive) or a 4 hour (optimal) chart, place the ZIGZAG POINTER & NON LAGGING ZIGZAG indicator with the inputs supplied, on a candle chart with period separators.

How To Enter 4 Hour Chart

When you see an arrow & the Zig-Zag Line, go in that direction. Place your stop according to your risk appetite. I use at 60 on a 4 HR & 20 on a 1 HR depending on which pair you use (I use the EUR/JPY or GBP/JPY 1hr or 4 hr) & your risk appetite, you can set your goals. Your trade will go until you hit your goal or the next bounce with an Arrow.

If you dont see a new arrow yet, this trade MIGHT not be done. You have 2 options.

1)You can get out & wait for the next arrow.

2)You can adjust your stop to capture some pips & ride it out.

The reason I say that is because I have noticed that more than a few times the trend will bounce & retrace for a while, then continue. I have used the bounce as stop & a chance to add to my positions.

A few points are if the overall trend is long & you see a short signal, chances are its a small retrace so it is more risky. However its a good chance for a quick profit.

How To Enter 1 Hour Chart

If you choose to use a 1 hr chart I recommend that you get out at each bounce or your specified targets.

This is a serious trading system. I have been scoffed at about this but I have been using it.

If you have the time I think you should demo it.

Before I forget, yes the arrows move. If a new high/low is established, the arrow will move to the next PROBABLE reverse point. So backtesting is useless. Only forward testing applies & thats why I know it works.

Constructive comments & suggestings are welcome.

Thank you for your time

Bear-

As per Mr. Pips Request here is a link to all indis:

https://www.forex-tsd.com/forum/trading-systems/7834-follow-the-bouncing-pip/page102#comment_218576

iscuba11
631
iscuba11  

Be careful, because zig zags (last leg) can repaint and can trip you up.

Dave

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eliseexige
235
eliseexige  

If you took that last EURJPY long, good trade. IF you aren't out of the long by now, then exit and lock in your gain.

Be wary of automating this, but it probably would be alright done manually.

bigbear3391
572
bigbear3391  

The repaints are not a issue. No trading system is perfect. repaints = a loss. If it dosnt it = a big win.

Not every system has to compicated with a million things on the screen.

I made over 1400 pips since i created this thread. I missed plenty of trades because its not automated.

I guess since no one is willing to help me out I will have to pay for it. I dont mind paying for it. This system help me quit my day job.

If anyone is interested please let send me quotes on how much making this EA will cost me.

Thank you.

Bear-

forex11
204
forex11  

Interested

This technique looks fantastic. I used it the first part of this week and on monday made 600 pips.

What a way to start the week/month out!!

I also made 100 on the gbp/usd

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Cryten
269
Cryten  

hi bear, can i ask how long you have been trading this system live?

prasxz
1259
prasxz  

hi

bigbear3391:
Hey All,

I was trying to get help making an EA out of this & it was suggested that I post it here so people will get comfy with it.

Before I get into it I have a few things to say.....

Yes you will lose.

But with proper money management & practice you can do pretty good.

All the tools needed are available for download. This system only works on MT4 brokers.

Heres how it works.

On a 1 hour (aggressive) or a 4 hour (optimal) chart, place the ZIGZAG POINTER & NON LAGGING ZIGZAG indicator with the inputs supplied, on a candle chart with period separators.

This is a 4 HR chart:

This is a 1 HR chart:

How To Enter 4 Hour Chart

When you see an arrow & the Zig-Zag Line, go in that direction. Place your stop according to your risk appetite. I use at 60 on a 4 HR & 20 on a 1 HR depending on which pair you use (I use the EUR/JPY or GBP/JPY 1hr or 4 hr) & your risk appetite, you can set your goals. Your trade will go until you hit your goal or the next bounce with an Arrow.

If you dont see a new arrow yet, this trade MIGHT not be done. You have 2 options.

1)You can get out & wait for the next arrow.

2)You can adjust your stop to capture some pips & ride it out.

The reason I say that is because I have noticed that more than a few times the trend will bounce & retrace for a while, then continue. I have used the bounce as stop & a chance to add to my positions.

A few points are if the overall trend is long & you see a short signal, chances are its a small retrace so it is more risky. However its a good chance for a quick profit.

How To Enter 1 Hour Chart

If you choose to use a 1 hr chart I recommend that you get out at each bounce or your specified targets.

This is a serious trading system. I have been scoffed at about this but I have been using it.

If you have the time I think you should demo it.

Before I forget, yes the arrows move. If a new high/low is established, the arrow will move to the next PROBABLE reverse point. So backtesting is useless. Only forward testing applies & thats why I know it works.

Constructive comments & suggestings are welcome.

Thank you for your time

Bear-

hi, nice system, how about drawdown ? is it good for GBP too ? thanks

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downunderdave40
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downunderdave40  

Parameter Settings

What are the parameter settings for the non lag zig zag and MA?

bigbear3391
572
bigbear3391  
prasxz:
hi, nice system, how about drawdown ? is it good for GBP too ? thanks

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Hey There,

The wins way out do your losses. My average stop on the EUR/JPY 1 hr is 60. My average win is about 200. So even if you loose 3 times your in the +. With the GBP/JPY its 100 PIP stop on the 4 hour with an average 500 PIP win.

You can use it on any pair. I just prefer EUR/JPY & GBP/JPY.

Hope that helps.

Bear-

robp
565
robp  

What do you mean when you say ... "When you see an arrow &the Zig-Zag Line, go in that direction."

The arrow appears first. If you wait for a line to appear after the arrow the trade is over.

bigbear3391:

When you see an arrow & the Zig-Zag Line, go in that direction. ...

Bear-
bigbear3391
572
bigbear3391  
downunderdave40:
What are the parameter settings for the non lag zig zag and MA?

Hey there,

Well I dont use an MA. Although I could see how it could be used as a visual aid.

The settings on the NLZZ are:

the Settings for the Zig Zag Pointer are:

Hope that helps

Bear-