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Boring Pips MT4

4.6

Have you ever wondered why most expert advisors are not effective in live trading, despite their perfect backtest performance?

The most likely answer is Over-fitting. Many EAs are created to ‘learn’ and adapt perfectly to the available historical data, but they fail to predict the future due to a lack of generalizability in the constructed model.

Some developers simply don't know about the existence of over-fitting, or they know but don't have a way to prevent it. Others exploit it as a tool to beautify their backtest results, they add dozens of input parameters without considering statistical significance, making the trading strategy excessively tailored to historical data and attempting to convince others that their EA can achieve similar performance in the future.

If you are interested in this fascinating subject and want to get a deeper insight into over-fitting, please refer to my articles here:

Avoiding Over-fitting in Trading Strategy (Part 1): Identifying the Signs and Causes

Avoiding Over-fitting in Trading Strategy (Part 2): A Guide to Building Optimization Processes

There are several ways to avoid losing money on an expert advisor whose only ‘edge’ is reading past data, and the easiest way is NEVER TO USE AN EXPERT ADVISOR WITHOUT LIVE TRADING RESULTS FOR AT LEAST 5 MONTHS OR 300 TRACKED TRADES, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS FREE OR HAS GOOD BACKTEST RESULTS. Monitoring the performance of live trades is the simplest way to observe the performance of an EA with data it has never seen before.


Boring Pips optimization process - A rigorous validation process that creates a difference.

Boring Pips undergoes a comprehensive and tailor-made optimization process called Anti-overfitting. This is a robust optimization process implemented to eliminate any influence of overfitting on the trading system, ensuring the generality of the constructed model. Please refer to the article linked in Part 2 above for a more in-depth look at this process.

Anti-overfitting process consists of 3 stages:

-  Initial Optimization: This stage involves optimizing the Boring Pips using historical data from 2010 to 2019. The purpose of this phase is to test the initial premise of the trading strategy and extract the most robust parameters values. 

-  Walk-forward: In the second stage, the parameters that performed well in the first stage are tested using entirely new data ranging from 2019 to 2022. The objective is to ensure the trading system's stability with fresh data and evaluate the predictive power of the model.

-  Stress testing: Parameter values that pass the first two stages will undergo Stress testing. In this final test, a simulation algorithm is used to introduce variables like Noise and Lag to the initial entry and exit points (determined by the selected parameters from Walk-forward phase). The goal is to push the system beyond its 'comfort zone' and assess the system's tolerance to random factors such as lag and noise.

Live trading monitoring: The most robust parameter values extracted from Anti-overfitting process have been tested for trading performance with a real account since October 10, 2022. This account is being tracked via the link below.

Live trading performance: Live signals

MT5 version for Boring Pips: MT5

Please refer to the Boring Pips FAQ here.


Introduction to Boring Pips algorithm

Boring Pips trading system is a blend of cutting-edge artificial intelligence algorithms and classic trading strategies involving: momentum, supply - demand zones and Fibonaci retracement. Specifically, the EA employs an advanced formula based on deep learning algorithms to simultaneously measure the momentum of prices across 4 time-frames. This analysis helps identify instances where synchronization in the decline of price momentum at potential supply and demand zones, enabling the system to make informed trading decisions. The entire process, from signal scanning to entering and exiting positions, is completely automated in 4 steps:

- Step 1: An advanced algorithm is used to continuously scan the supply and demand zones, which are potential areas where prices are likely to react.

- Step 2: Boring Pips uses a sophisticated and unique algorithm created by artificial intelligence to detect any change in price momentum after a strong price movement across different time-frames.

- Step 3: The system makes trading decisions when the price loses momentum at previously identified supply and demand zones, predicting a reversal.

- Step 4: Boring Pips manages trades based on the probability distribution rule to ensure maximum exploitation of the trading edge that the entry point brings.


Features

 Name

 Boring Pips

 Version

 4.30

 Platform

 MT4, MT5

 Trading strategies

 Momentum, Supply and Demand zones, Fibonaci retracement,   Artificial intelligence

 Recommended pairs

 AUDNZD, NZDCAD, AUDCAD

 Time-frame

 M5

 MultiCurrency EA

 Yes. One chart for all symbols

 Takeprofit

 Yes. Trailing

 Stoploss

 Yes. Fixed

 Grid

 Optional

 Martingale

 Optional

 Manual Risk Manegement

 Yes. Stop entrying / Close all positions


Recommended installation

  •  Install Boring Pips on one of the AUDCAD/AUDNZD/NZDCAD chart, with a time-frame of M5.
  •  Trading symbols: select the trading currency pair (optimized for AUDCAD/AUDNZD/NZDCAD).
  •  Risk mode: select an appropriate risk mode (Boring, Low risk, Medium risk or High risk).
  •  Base balance: Choose the amount of Balance to allocate for trading.
  •  Personalization settings: please refer to the Detailed instructions.
  •  Risk Management settings: please refer to the Detailed instructions

- It is highly recommended to perform backtesting with high modelling quality data from third-party tick providers such as Tick Data Suite or Tick Story.

- Please message me after purchasing the EA to receive full support.

If you have any inquiries or feedback regarding Boring Pips, please feel free to send me a private message


Reviews 17
Ed
242
Ed 2025.01.20 14:09 
 

This is a great EA. Steady and consistent. One of the jewels here in mql5. Coder of the EA Thi/Andy has a great support. And you have settings for prop firms. I advise this EA to anyone. Besides, settings are simple.

NN
834
NN 2024.03.26 16:35 
 

Boring Pips is a very good EA because it is reliable and profitable. Additionally, the developer is helpful.

Yasser Alnaqeeb
807
Yasser Alnaqeeb 2024.02.03 13:54 
 

Unlike many other EAs in the market, this EA is so user-friendly that does not require any skills to adjust the settings, just choose between low, medium and high frequency trading, actually there is not much risk involved with high-risk, it can be easily used for a retirement plan. Thank you Thi Thu for this piece of art.

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Thi Thu Ha Hoang
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Have you ever wondered why most expert advisors are not effective in live trading, despite their perfect backtest performance? The most likely answer is  Over-fitting . Many EAs are created to ‘learn’ and adapt perfectly to the available historical data, but they fail to predict the future due to a lack of generalizability in the constructed model. Some developers simply don't know about the existence of over-fitting, or they know but don't have a way to prevent it. Others exploit it as a tool
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Top Forex 2025.04.12 06:01 
 

I had a bad drawdown 2 days ago on Audcad finished with a stop loss...anyone experienced the same?

Ed
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Ed 2025.01.20 14:09 
 

This is a great EA. Steady and consistent. One of the jewels here in mql5. Coder of the EA Thi/Andy has a great support. And you have settings for prop firms. I advise this EA to anyone. Besides, settings are simple.

Igor Gorodnichii
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Igor Gorodnichii 2024.12.10 06:45 
 

7 days have passed, and there are no open orders... who needs EA with one trade per month?

Thi Thu Ha Hoang
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Reply from developer Thi Thu Ha Hoang 2024.12.10 12:32
Hi Igor, I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience with Boring Pips EA. MQL5 statistics show that the Medium Risk EA trades about 6 times a week, but this can vary. There may be gaps of several days or weeks without trades, depending on market conditions. December and January typically see the lowest trading activity due to the holidays. Thank you for taking the time to learn the EA. It’s designed to run automatically, so I recommend leaving it installed and checking back later. I hope your next experience is more positive and encourages you to reconsider. Best regards, Andy
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xswxsw151 2024.11.15 16:41 
 

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NN
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NN 2024.03.26 16:35 
 

Boring Pips is a very good EA because it is reliable and profitable. Additionally, the developer is helpful.

Yasser Alnaqeeb
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Yasser Alnaqeeb 2024.02.03 13:54 
 

Unlike many other EAs in the market, this EA is so user-friendly that does not require any skills to adjust the settings, just choose between low, medium and high frequency trading, actually there is not much risk involved with high-risk, it can be easily used for a retirement plan. Thank you Thi Thu for this piece of art.

Albert Ebenezer
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Albert Ebenezer 2024.01.18 17:31 
 

I'm extremely happy with the EA performance so far. It's been a few months and it's operating very consistently. Andy went beyond anyone's expectation in assisting me to setup the EA to test out even before I purchased it. The EA trades very sensibly and is extremely safe. This is the first EA I have come across that is trading so safe. All his claims and description are very valid. Andy is very helpful and really sincere in his desire for purchasers to succeed. It was very evident from my dealing with Andy and it's very hard to come across such developers to the level Andy operates. I'm so grateful that he helped me to alleviate my concerns and helped me without expecting anything in return. These are marks of true gentlemanship and need to be spoken off loud and clear :) I highly recommend this EA for anyone who wants a stable, safe and consistent passive income on full auto mode. I usually baby sit most EA's but I quickly realised that I can run this on full auto and never need to see it again. It's a typical set and forget EA which you rarely find these days. Thank you very much for all you help Andy. Kindly accept my sincere appreciation and you deserved it very much.

miko nata
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miko nata 2024.01.16 04:31 
 

Great EA, seller fast respon, very good support

Jean Philippe Groleau
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Jean Philippe Groleau 2023.12.14 20:26 
 

I am making money, this ea is pretty user friendly. I wish i had this ea when i started trading forex.

Giam Zhen Rong Colin
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Giam Zhen Rong Colin 2023.11.23 14:39 
 

Very prompt reply and answered most of my queries and doubt before purchasing. Looking forward to the first few weeks of the EA trading! Will be updating on my performance

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26/12

Very little trades this month, but overall it is still making money in november. Need 2 more months before i'll update again

Lucas Marcelo Morgan
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Lucas Marcelo Morgan 2023.11.13 17:23 
 

I want to give a big thank you to the developer for creating this EA, and providing such good support. I've been running it for roughly a month and a half now on a live account set to high risk, with otherwise default settings. It performs very well! My initial deposit of 5k has gained about ~600 dollars since starting. Before I committed to using it, I ran through many back tests, using real tick data from tick data suite (dukascopy) and configured commissions, slippage, every tick using real ticks, etc. for the closest to real simulation I could get. So far can say it matches back testing fairly well. Now, for a word of caution - this EA's default functionality does utilize grid/martingale. This isn't something I say as a criticism of the EA, it's part of it's design. You can also turn it off if you want a non grid/marti system that uses the ML backend the author has developed for placing trades. That said, as always use caution and maybe consider trading at lower risk settings.. For example, September-November 2023 was a rough time for those trading the AUDNZD, NZDCAD, AUDCAD pairs, as some world news, wars and who knows what else created some price action that deviated from the norm, and created a pretty significant amount of drawdown that lasted close to a month. It didn't just apply to boring pips, my other EA (waka waka) also suffered pretty intense drawdowns, not quite as intense as boring pips but also boring pips earns so much more per month at the highest risk setting compared to waka that I think it's a fair comparison. That said, I like the way boring pips handles martingale, it feels less aggressive somehow. That's very subjective and meaningless metric but just my impression. Ok, so another thing I have been testing is how this EA works on other currency pairs. It was not designed for other pairs, but given the rigorous attention to preventing over fitting I thought I'd give it a try. My tests so far have shown that growth curves are similar, however risk of ruin is almost guaranteed to happen within a year using high risk. Risk of ruin is likely to one day happen for the intended pairs as well, but in all my backtests I have not run into that yet. I'd say high risk is probably only acceptable if you can afford to lose that cash, medium risk feels very good, I think I'll switch to that after a few months of compounding, and low risk feels like something I can go to sleep at night and not worry about from what I've seen from the back tests. I've got lots more to test, different risk levels for other currency pairs. Anyways, thank you again to the developer and I do highly recommend this EA.

Philippe Gerard De Paix De Coeur
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Philippe Gerard De Paix De Coeur 2023.10.04 10:38 
 

Acheté il y a deux jours, et déjà dans le positif. Il fonctionne sur 3 de mes comptes + darwinex Zero et il rapporte des gains. Très précis et rentable. Actuellement j'utilise la stratégie Low Risk comme conseillé pour voir comment il fonctionne. Je reviendrais d'ici un mois avec plus de chiffres mais dans l'immédiat je ne peux que conseiller cet EA. Configuration simple, resultats positifs... Je valide et mérite plus de 5 étoiles. Bravo et merci aux developpeurs !

z35f0021
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z35f0021 2023.09.22 12:23 
 

Backtested with TDS. Great EA with very stable results and low DD. Also, the author is a great and trustworthy author who responds quickly and politely to questions.

Wei Peng Li
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Wei Peng Li 2023.09.15 10:52 
 

Very good EA, with much lower risks compared to similar types of EA, and considerable profits and accuracy.

Barat Ongso
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Barat Ongso 2023.09.04 03:39 
 

Positive Review !, backtest is good & communication from seller is good, Live signal show good value of the EA.

happy.days
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happy.days 2023.08.24 06:50 
 

He is very kind! Thank you very much for giving me many advice. I opened a forex account and started trading today. :)

Thi Thu Ha Hoang
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Reply from developer Thi Thu Ha Hoang 2023.08.24 06:53
Dear Ryuji, you are always welcome!
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Reply from developer Thi Thu Ha Hoang 2023.08.24 06:22
Thank you for your feedback, please message me anytime you need support.
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Version 4.3 2024.11.23
For more details, please visit the link: https://www.mql5.com/en/blogs/post/760025

1. The EA no longer uses medium-reliability entry signals in the default settings. While these signals increased trading frequency, they were not as reliable as expected and contributed to the Drawdown in June 2024. Users can still access these signals by selecting 'Personalised setting'; see the conversion table from version 4.x to 4.3 at the end of this article.


2. A new "Risk Management" feature has been added, allowing users to set Drawdown levels as a percentage of their balance instead of in base currency, triggering Close/Stop actions accordingly.

Users must first choose a method in 'Drawdown Calculation', then input the value in the 'When getting this DD level' section:

- For percentage-based calculations, 100 indicates 100% of the account balance.

- For calculations in base currency (USD), 100 represents 100 USD.


3. The lot increase coefficient has been slightly reduced, resulting in a less aggressive volume increase.
Version 4.2 2024.08.09
Version 4.2:

The market exhibits considerable sensitivity to information concerning the timing of interest rate adjustments and geopolitical events. Accordingly, I have decided to limit orders to entry models with a medium level of reliability. Version 4.2 will incorporate the following modifications:

1. Increase the difficulty of entry signals to avoid premature entries in the current one-way market trend. (Only applicable to medium reliability entry models; high reliability entry models are unaffected).

2. Modify the volume rounding method for enhanced safety.

The difficulty of entry models will be determined based on volatility through the end of the year, allowing for downward adjustments as necessary.
Version 4.1 2024.07.19
In version 4.0, the introduction of the 'Max positions per group' condition unintentionally results in secondary positions remaining open when the Grid strategy is turned off.

Update 4.1 addresses this issue by ensuring that each group opens only one position when the Grid strategy is disabled.
Version 4.0 2024.06.30
Update 4.0: https://www.mql5.com/en/blogs/post/758260

1. For accounts with a base currency (deposit currency) other than USD, the EA will now automatically convert currencies to USD for calculating trading volume, eliminating the need for manual conversion.
2. The 'Base balance' will now be determined as a PERCENTAGE of the account balance rather than being fixed in USD, facilitating Auto_lot function (allows trading volume adjusts with the account balance).
3. Enhanced risk management options include:
- Setting the maximum number of currency pairs to be traded at the same time.
- Setting the maximum number of positions per group (a grid series of positions closed together)
- Setting the maximum spread for trading.
4. Additional display preferences:
- Option to Enable/Disable Dashboard visibility.
- Option to Enable/Disable display of supply/demand zones on the chart.
- Customization of Order Comments is now supported.
Version 3.3 2023.10.13
1. Risk reduction with High Risk mode:
- Decrease trading frequency by 15% compared to version 3.2 (with Higher Trading frequency and only applies to models with medium reliability).
- Decrease TP distance by 33% compared to version 3.2 (only applies to models with medium reliability).
2. Add warning for accounts with base currency other than USD.
3. Add warning for incorrect currency pairs or not added to marketwatch (with MT5 version).
Version 3.2 2023.08.22
Update version 3.2: Changing the way input symbols are entered.