What will be the effect of AI?

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Jox90
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Jox90  
What do you think will be in the future the effect on markets and on the "trading world" of the use by institutions and retail traders of artificial intelligence in trading?
Marco vd Heijden
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Marco vd Heijden  
None.
Jox90
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Jox90  
Marco vd Heijden:
None.
Thank you for your answer. Why do you think that?
Marco vd Heijden
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Marco vd Heijden  

Buy&Sell nothing has ever changed.

Why do you think something will change ?

Amir Yacoby
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Amir Yacoby  
What will be the effect when all wars will be fought by robots? 

Well, technically, Marco is right. They are supposed to fight the same way, just more efficiently. But, something might change, about the attitude of people to wars and economy. But I'm not a prophet to say what will It be. if any.
Jox90
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Jox90  
Marco vd Heijden:

Buy&Sell nothing has ever changed.

Why do you think something will change ?

In reality I asked this because I don't know what could be the effect, and this because to me it's not clear what is the real potential of AI, and what would be the impact on markets of hypothetical very successful systems used by masses like could be AI systems in the future. So an implied question could be: what would happen if 90/95% of retail traders win? Would this be accepted by who rules the financial world?
Carmine Pinto
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Carmine Pinto  
Jox90:
In reality I asked this because I don't know what could be the effect, and this because to me it's not clear what is the real potential of AI, and what would be the impact on markets of hypothetical very successful systems used by masses like could be AI systems in the future. So an implied question could be: what would happen if 90/95% of retail traders win?

Funny question. I think you have confused ideas about who are the main trading actors and what are their characters and purposes in the general markets.

This is not going to happen and it sound more like a joke to be honest.

Jox90
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Jox90  
Carmine Pinto:

Funny question. I think you have confused ideas about who are the main trading actors and what are their characters and purposes in the general markets.

This is not going to happen and it sound more like a joke to be honest.

I have not confused ideas about these things, I have no ideas, that's why I'm asking...(if you had read this part: "I asked this because I don't know what could be the effect...")

I think instead that you are a quite impulsive person.

Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

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Carmine Pinto
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Carmine Pinto  
Jox90:

I have not confused ideas about these things, I have no ideas, that's why I'm asking...(if you had read this part: "I asked this because I don't know what could be the effect...")

I think instead that you are a quite impulsive person.

Well, you said once in another post that you were not a newbie in the trading arena but now you state that  "you asked this because you don't know what could be the effect..etc"

Even a child understand that markets have a couple of main purposes which are on one side speculative and on the other hand to cover some form of risk (i.e. Large Speculators and Commercials) these actors can literally drive the markets even through manipulation and other "trading art forms" to get best prices "when they want" and "when they can or need" surf a wave to speculate with or simply to cover their risks on physical assets for example.

Now you understand that when you write the "joke-scenario" where 90 to 95% of retail traders in the future could be winners through some form of A.I. some one could make a big fat laugh, right?

Who has got the big and fat capitals lead on the markets and not who have some "magical A.I." as you are supposing.

Icham Aidibe
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Icham Aidibe  

Volatility.

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