Interesting and Humour - page 4748

 
Artyom Trishkin:

Good :) So I lived in the elite USSR ;) We had everything for our wants.

The reason might be the ZATO of state importance. But we used to go to Krasnoyarsk to buy prefabricated models made of plastics from GDR; there was an abundance of them in Detskiy Mir, while here we had only Soviet-made models, which were unsinkable... Also, my parents used to bring them back from business trips - from Moscow and St. Petersburg (they used to spend several days there on their way to work).

We had a godsend for everything that we devised, and we assembled it under his guidance. By ourselves, with our own hands. And he actively helped and guided us, and bought everything we needed - from materials to radio control units. Moreover, it was very difficult to get a radio control permit for a closed city - the radio signals were quickly located and an order arrived. Naturally, he had all the permits. But you couldn't do it without one. But when Boris Yakovlevich used to go to the region in his Zaporozhets car to collect new materials, we unpacked our planes and ran to the court to drive the plane in circles. Then we'd get our asses kicked, but we'd do it all over again. He was a good man. Gone to Israel in the '90s... Too bad. I found out after the army...

Yes, indeed, it still depends a lot on the circle leader.

 
Vitalii Ananev:

Yes, indeed, it still depends a lot on the circle leader.

Exactly. And it has nothing to do with the state, since even in a closed city we did radio-controlled models, which was terribly difficult for the leader. And where there were no restrictions, it was certainly the fault of the lout who wiped his arse and took a good place as a club leader. And the children suffer.

 
Dmitry Fedoseev:

You must have had a club for elite pioneers. But in reality it was exactly as Vitaly writes. True, I went to radio class, but the tendency was the same: don't say you want to put together a light-music box or running lights-no, you have to put together a freaking detector receiver.

And I had a toy shop on my way to school, went there every day, never saw any aeromodels or any aeromodelling kits.

Our club was full of "adult" tools, materials and drawings. Models were collected at different scales - from tiny planes, to large gliders and huge radio-controlled machines. However, there were not many people in the club and aeroplanes hung on the walls were creations of unknown geniuses of the past.) I was not allowed to build a motorised version probably because of my age - I was too young. However, the atmosphere of suppression of invention was distinctly felt. Everything standard and following standard templates was accepted.

The reasons were clear only on a global scale. Talented people can easily gain a competitive edge by realising the fruits of their labour and can convert them into money through trade, if they are not stopped from childhood and their maturing uniqueness is not destroyed. Otherwise, there is the potential for the destruction of the ideology of equality and the decapitalisation of society in specific individuals, and through them will proliferate in society. If a child prodigy starts creating and then selling his or her wares, grows up defending his or her patents and starts a company, the kind of capitalism everyone is fighting against will emerge. Therefore, originality has been clearly discriminated against ideologically, in context implying a general attitude against the flourishing of mercantile human interest.

 
Реter Konow:

Our club was full of 'grown-up' tools, materials and drawings. Models were assembled on different scales, from tiny aeroplanes to large gliders and huge radio-controlled machines. However, there were not many people in the club and aeroplanes hung on the walls were creations of unknown geniuses of the past.) I was not allowed to build a motorised version probably because of my age - I was too young. However, the atmosphere of suppression of invention was distinctly felt. Everything standard and following standard templates was accepted.

The reasons were clear only on a global scale. Talented people can easily gain a competitive edge by realising the fruits of their labour and can convert them into money through trade, if they are not stopped from childhood and their maturing uniqueness is not destroyed. Otherwise, there is the potential threat of the destruction of the ideology of equality and the decapitalisation of society in particular individuals, and through them, of society. If a child prodigy creates and then sells his or her wares, grows up protecting his or her patents and starts a company, the kind of capitalism everyone is fighting for will emerge. Therefore, originality was clearly discriminated against ideologically, in a context implying a general attitude against the flourishing of mercantile human interest.

No need for this bullshit here. AND YT? Magazine "Young Technician", which even had a special subsection for young inventors, and a special supplement, which was described in detail how to build - from a paper model-copy, to a buggy and a small sailing yacht... AND MK? "Modelist Konstruktor", which contained any drawings for any model and printed, again, the achievements of inventors from small to large...

Where in what part of the galaxy did you live? Or is it just the current fashion trend that has taken over the minds of young grunts ?

My childhood was spent in the so-called 'stagnation period', where everything was boiling and whirling. But now, yes, there is nothing. No circles, no squares... Just sitting at their computers all day/night, or with their faces in a smartphone even across the street. Beautiful...
 
Artyom Trishkin:

Don't give me that bullshit. WHAT ABOUT YT? Young Technician magazine, which even had a special subsection for young inventors, and a special appendix that detailed how to assemble everything from a replica paper model to a buggy to a small sailboat... AND MK? "Modelist Konstruktor", which contained any drawings for any model and printed, again, the achievements of inventors from small to large...

Where in what part of the galaxy did you live? Or is it just the current fashion trend that has taken over the minds of young grunts ?

Here's an example. A children's story by a Soviet writer (I read it as an adult for the sake of interest). The plot revolves around teenagers' fascination with aquarium fish. Some have decided to monetize the case by selling exclusive copies on the market. These characters are presented in a strongly negative light until they are "cleared" by persuading them to give up the money and hand over all the fish to the pioneer club for free. There, the affair ended. There were different developments, but everything revolved around the same conceptual axis - the amoral nature of monetising one's hobby and the struggle for a clear conscience by rejecting commercialism.

Of course, from a moral point of view this is a good thing, but still. Taken away from teenagers' material motivation for the cause, leaving only an aesthetic interest.

 
Реter Konow:

Here's an example. A children's story by a Soviet writer (I read it as an adult for the sake of interest). The story revolves around the fascination of teenagers with aquarium fish. Some have decided to monetise the business by selling bred exclusive specimens on the market. These characters are presented in a strongly negative light until they are "cleared" by persuading them to give up the money and hand over all the fish to the pioneer club for free. There, the affair ended. There were different developments, but everything revolved around the same conceptual axis - the amoral nature of monetising one's hobby and the struggle for a clear conscience by rejecting commercialism.

Of course, from a moral point of view this is a good thing, but still... Taking away the material motivation for the cause from teenagers, leaving only an aesthetic interest.

Right. And "Pinocchio" went bust on commercial interest. What examples you have... There's no need to transfer all the negativity of one writer to the diversity of life.

I don't claim "the sky is bluer and the grass is greener and the groove is rounder". But there's no need to overdo it either - it smells unpalatable. And very close to the edge.

 
Artyom Trishkin:

Right. And Pinocchio went bust on commercial interest. What examples you have... You don't have to shift all the negativity of one writer to the diversity of life.

I'm not saying "the sky is bluer and the grass is greener and the groove is rounder". But there's no need to overdo it either - it smells unpalatable. And very close to the edge.

Let's just say the topic is not suitable for a branch, so let's close it.

 
Реter Konow:

However, the atmosphere of suppression of invention was clearly felt. Everything was accepted as standard and following standard templates.

Originality was therefore clearly discriminated against ideologically, in context implying a general attitude against the flourishing of human mercantile interest.

Don't scale it this way: one lazy (alcoholic, pissed off, just a bad person - underline it) at the head of the circle to the whole country.

Tag Konow:

Talented people easily gain a competitive edge by realising the fruits of their labour and can convert them into money through trade, if they are not stopped from childhood and their maturing uniqueness is not broken.

Add Perelman and it becomes obvious that inventiveness/talent in the technical sense is not the equivalent (but rather the opposite) of ingenuity in the "dodgy" sense. The former was nurtured in Soviet times and the latter was equated with cheating.

PS it's time to stop, the topic is slipping into forbidden politics here.

 
Igor Zakharov:

don't scale it this way: one lazy (alcoholic, pissed off, just a bad person - underline it) at the head of the circle to the whole country.

The stories of Tesla and Edison come to mind (one invented, the other monetised). Add Perelman, and it becomes obvious that inventiveness/talent in the technical sense is not the equivalent (but rather the opposite) of ingenuity in the "dodgy" sense. The former was nurtured in Soviet times and the latter was equated with cheating.

PS it's time to stop, the topic is slipping into forbidden politics here.

You may be right. Change the subject).
 
Реter Konow:

Here's an example. A children's story by a Soviet writer (I read it as an adult for the sake of interest). The story revolves around the fascination of teenagers with aquarium fish. Some have decided to monetise the business by selling bred exclusive specimens on the market. These characters are presented in a strongly negative light until they are "cleared" by persuading them to give up the money and hand over all the fish to the pioneer club for free. There, the affair ended. There were different developments, but everything revolved around the same conceptual axis - the amoral nature of monetising one's hobby and the struggle for a clear conscience by rejecting commercialism.

Of course, from a moral point of view this is a good thing, but still... Taking away the material motivation for teenagers to do business, leaving only an aesthetic interest.

What the hell are you talking about?

at that time, trade in fish, as well as everything related to aquaristics in general, flourished and brought excellent additional income, and for some the main and only income! this is one of my most vivid childhood experiences, a trip to the indoor market was for me a holiday - aquariums overflowed all the colours of the rainbow, fish, newts, turtles, shrimp ... moths, daphnii, rotifers, fairy dust, gomarus, gnat on cottage cheese... beauty!

Now it is not profitable to engage in commercial aquaristics (not as profitable as it was before), all seized by big companies, enough to go to their website and order - will send delivery and fish and exotic plants and anything else.

You read about some people and you think - God has given the poor, they see nothing good around them, they notice only abominations.

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