From theory to practice - page 1580

 
Andrey Gladyshev:
Many times the question has arisen about bid and ask fluctuations.
We are talking about the forex market here, not the real exchange (everything is clear there)
Can these fluctuations be considered as a result of traders' actions?
I understand that globally the price moves where it needs to,
but in the near-spread space bid and ask are moving,
perhaps due to the traders' actions.
Or these fluctuations are generated by the brokerage firm itself to "cover their tracks"?
several liquidity providers... the cup...
 
Andrey Gladyshev:
Or are these fluctuations generated by the DC itself to "cover their tracks"?

It's just that if that's the case, then analyzing the ticks of any DC is meaningless.
What kind of grails could there be...

 
Andrey Gladyshev:

It's just that if that's the case, then analyzing the ticks of any DC is meaningless.
What kind of grails could there be...


Is this spread the real spread? Or is the real one much larger...

 
multiplicator:
several liquidity providers... glass...

But in essence, the DC is just broadcasting the quotes.
They can broadcast them "in their own way".

 
Evgeniy Chumakov:


Is this spread the real spread? Or is the real one a lot bigger...

That's the point. What can be considered an underlying asset?
The spread is what each broker draws as it sees fit.

 
apr73:

Have you solved the problem of perception ?

Yes. It comes with experience.
Unfortunately, neither books nor posts on forums will do that. Only experience does.
The guys who wrote on the forums back then were great, pioneers of the Runet, they wrote intelligently. I joined them only in 2004, when many of them had already become disillusioned and were communicating either off-topic or as a hobby. I hope some of them are now churning out money on PAMM accounts under different screen names.

 
Макс:
Yeah. It comes with experience.
Unfortunately, neither books nor posts on forums will do that. Only experience.
The guys who wrote on the forums back then were great, pioneers of the Runet, and wrote intelligently. I joined them only in 2004, when many of them had already become disillusioned and were communicating either off-topic or as a hobby. I hope some of them are now churning out money on PAMM accounts under different screen names.

The good topics on the forum ended in 2013-14.
 
Vladimir Kononenko:
The forum ended in 2013-14, I think even earlier.
I think even earlier. I almost stopped writing on the Bulkoforum around 2011, moved to the alp forum on Paukas' advertising and sat there, opened a PAMM account and started chopping up the cabbage. And then there were not many places and not much to talk about. The only thing I could talk about was the subject of nekola, which stirred my mind a bit, until I tested everything well and realized that it was just a stupid waste of my MO on total spreads, commissions and slippages. Then Chrenfh added more oil to the fire, but it turned out that the guy was just lucky with the dead Eurofrank at that time. There is not much else to remember.
The only interesting thing now is to talk to successful managers.
 
apr73:

The topic is not entirely useless.

I think it covers the essence of the concept of "Player Error"

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ошибка_игрока

Nekola is good at this, no doubt about it. I worked in a casino for 4 years myself and saw all these "unbelievable probabilities" with my own eyes. I once rolled 5 reds 5 times in a row. I heard a lot about myself when I was cleaning a table full of chips for the fourth time... of course, I cleaned it almost to zero)))
But it has nothing to do with the exchange. If red/black here is a reasonable size (in pips), then it is very difficult to find situations where something will fall at least 7-8 times in a row. One cannot make money on it with marin, because there will be either extremely low profit percentage in each deal, or entering after 5-6 hits will be extremely low number of deals. Nevertheless, the probability of red, with each new black in a row, increases.
 
Макс:
But nevertheless - the probability of red, with each successive black, increases.
this is exactly the article that says it doesn't.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ошибка_игрока

"one is not intuitively aware of the fact that the probability of a desired outcome is independent of the previous outcomes of a random event."
Reason: