I think everyone have to find his "own mix", and we should associate cycles with other indics, but it can give very useful informations on the current trend !
I think everyone have to find his "own mix", and we should associate cycles with other indics, but it can give very useful informations on the current trend !
Exactly!FFt is a "filter"not a signal generator...If someone doesn't know how to trade he is wasting his time searching for Holy Grail here...
Pava: Every indicator lags a little...so why place cycle on an indicator?...then cycle will lag more.....
Hi,
The Cycles ( if we can find them ) will not be LAGGING tools,
They will be .....
Please test these example:
1- in any spreadsheet or any graphical_mathematical software or your MQL coding , make some triangular waveform ( phase = random , max_min or P_P = 2*AMPLitude : Ampl1 < Ampl2 < Ampl3 < Ample4 .... ,
Freq : F1 < F2 < F3 < F4 .... )
2- add them all together. and see the result
3- change the phases ( start point of each waveform ) and see the result
4- change the number of waveforms till 10 , and see the result
5- compare the results by weekly chart of UJ , GU , EU , EJ , etc...
6- you will find the similarity between your waveforms and pairs.
7- you will ask : if it possible to find the waveforms that match more precisely to chart ?
8- the answer : may be yes if we can find a good mathematical tool for extracting sub cycles.
9- the start point is : use FFT for finding spectrum of a 8 year or 12 year daily Close price data ( 8 *264 or 12 *264 points )
10- try to seperate each sinusoid harmonic
( the difference to my example is : in FFT the periods of harmonics are integer multiple of base frequency, but In my example they don't need to be integer multiple of base(lowest) frequency)
11- convert sinus to Triangle ( freq = same , phase = same , Ampl = k * Pi / 3 ; k = variable
12- add together them , compare to chart
13- find an algorithm for changing the ( Ampl , Freq , Phase ) for best matching.
14- if we find the algorithm then we now have the best tool ,
I have done manual tests in Excell , Mql4 , FFT_dll ,...
I have not found the precise solution yet.
at 2008/10/25 I have made an excell file as above and the chart attached below ( yellow ) ,
if good Coders or Mathematical Professionals are interested , we can make a workgroup for developing the system
The Cycles ( if we can find them ) will not be LAGGING tools,
They will be .....
Please test these example:
1- in any spreadsheet or any graphical_mathematical software or your MQL coding , make some triangular waveform ( phase = random , max_min or P_P = 2*AMPLitude : Ampl1 < Ampl2 < Ampl3 < Ample4 .... ,
Freq : F1 < F2 < F3 < F4 .... )
2- add them all together. and see the result
3- change the phases ( start point of each waveform ) and see the result
4- change the number of waveforms till 10 , and see the result
5- compare the results by weekly chart of UJ , GU , EU , EJ , etc...
6- you will find the similarity between your waveforms and pairs.
7- you will ask : if it possible to find the waveforms that match more precisely to chart ?
8- the answer : may be yes if we can find a good mathematical tool for extracting sub cycles.
9- the start point is : use FFT for finding spectrum of a 8 year or 12 year daily Close price data ( 8 *264 or 12 *264 points )
10- try to seperate each sinusoid harmonic
( the difference to my example is : in FFT the periods of harmonics are integer multiple of base frequency, but In my example they don't need to be integer multiple of base(lowest) frequency)
11- convert sinus to Triangle ( freq = same , phase = same , Ampl = k * Pi / 3 ; k = variable
12- add together them , compare to chart
13- find an algorithm for changing the ( Ampl , Freq , Phase ) for best matching.
14- if we find the algorithm then we now have the best tool ,
I have done manual tests in Excell , Mql4 , FFT_dll ,...
I have not found the precise solution yet.
at 2008/10/25 I have made an excell file as above and the chart attached below ( yellow ) ,
if good Coders or Mathematical Professionals are interested , we can make a workgroup for developing the system
Thanks
Thanks mr tools.Although i cant access it but thank all d same.
Hey guys, something interesting
Hey guys, something interesting
This is my version
Hey guys, something interesting
H1 of GbpJpy...Good work Joe
This is my version
Where you find the kalman ? I would like to test the ff of it ?
Was it uploaded ? I missed it ?
Thanks
H1 of GbpJpy...Good work Joe
Yes nice work you too !
I think everyone have to find his "own mix", and we should associate cycles with other indics, but it can give very useful informations on the current trend !
Yes nice work you too !
I think everyone have to find his "own mix", and we should associate cycles with other indics, but it can give very useful informations on the current trend !
Exactly!FFt is a "filter"not a signal generator...If someone doesn't know how to trade he is wasting his time searching for Holy Grail here...
Triangular Cycles
Every indicator lags a little...so why place cycle on an indicator?...then cycle will lag more.....
Hi,
The Cycles ( if we can find them ) will not be LAGGING tools,
They will be .....
Please test these example:
1- in any spreadsheet or any graphical_mathematical software or your MQL coding , make some triangular waveform ( phase = random , max_min or P_P = 2*AMPLitude : Ampl1 < Ampl2 < Ampl3 < Ample4 .... ,
Freq : F1 < F2 < F3 < F4 .... )
2- add them all together. and see the result
3- change the phases ( start point of each waveform ) and see the result
4- change the number of waveforms till 10 , and see the result
5- compare the results by weekly chart of UJ , GU , EU , EJ , etc...
6- you will find the similarity between your waveforms and pairs.
7- you will ask : if it possible to find the waveforms that match more precisely to chart ?
8- the answer : may be yes if we can find a good mathematical tool for extracting sub cycles.
9- the start point is : use FFT for finding spectrum of a 8 year or 12 year daily Close price data ( 8 *264 or 12 *264 points )
10- try to seperate each sinusoid harmonic
( the difference to my example is : in FFT the periods of harmonics are integer multiple of base frequency, but In my example they don't need to be integer multiple of base(lowest) frequency)
11- convert sinus to Triangle ( freq = same , phase = same , Ampl = k * Pi / 3 ; k = variable
12- add together them , compare to chart
13- find an algorithm for changing the ( Ampl , Freq , Phase ) for best matching.
14- if we find the algorithm then we now have the best tool ,
I have done manual tests in Excell , Mql4 , FFT_dll ,...
I have not found the precise solution yet.
at 2008/10/25 I have made an excell file as above and the chart attached below ( yellow ) ,
if good Coders or Mathematical Professionals are interested , we can make a workgroup for developing the system
Regards
OTR
Hello OntheRoad,
Check out this impressive indicator. It might be helpful to you.
TradingArsenal.com - TradingArsenal.com
Regards,
Jeff
Hi,
The Cycles ( if we can find them ) will not be LAGGING tools,
They will be .....
Please test these example:
1- in any spreadsheet or any graphical_mathematical software or your MQL coding , make some triangular waveform ( phase = random , max_min or P_P = 2*AMPLitude : Ampl1 < Ampl2 < Ampl3 < Ample4 .... ,
Freq : F1 < F2 < F3 < F4 .... )
2- add them all together. and see the result
3- change the phases ( start point of each waveform ) and see the result
4- change the number of waveforms till 10 , and see the result
5- compare the results by weekly chart of UJ , GU , EU , EJ , etc...
6- you will find the similarity between your waveforms and pairs.
7- you will ask : if it possible to find the waveforms that match more precisely to chart ?
8- the answer : may be yes if we can find a good mathematical tool for extracting sub cycles.
9- the start point is : use FFT for finding spectrum of a 8 year or 12 year daily Close price data ( 8 *264 or 12 *264 points )
10- try to seperate each sinusoid harmonic
( the difference to my example is : in FFT the periods of harmonics are integer multiple of base frequency, but In my example they don't need to be integer multiple of base(lowest) frequency)
11- convert sinus to Triangle ( freq = same , phase = same , Ampl = k * Pi / 3 ; k = variable
12- add together them , compare to chart
13- find an algorithm for changing the ( Ampl , Freq , Phase ) for best matching.
14- if we find the algorithm then we now have the best tool ,
I have done manual tests in Excell , Mql4 , FFT_dll ,...
I have not found the precise solution yet.
at 2008/10/25 I have made an excell file as above and the chart attached below ( yellow ) ,
if good Coders or Mathematical Professionals are interested , we can make a workgroup for developing the system
Regards
OTRThank you Jeff
Hello OntheRoad,
Check out this impressive indicator. It might be helpful to you.
TradingArsenal.com - TradingArsenal.com
Regards,
JeffHi azjeff
I am checking it out.
Thank you .