Service Work: Towards re-shaping the Top Developers towards professionalism

[Andrey F. Zelinsky]

The top developers are becoming increasingly inaccessible to newcomers. There are not only amateurs among newcomers, but also professional developers who write in mcl4/5 outside the service. For them, the Top is also inaccessible.

There are two ways to get into the top: 1) outright dumping and 2) cheating.

Examples of outright dumping are obvious. Just go to any application and you can see price bids - one less than the other. Perhaps lowering the price of development is a good thing. Perhaps it is the right thing to do - less money will be thrown away on the chimera of the financial markets. But because of low development prices specialists will leave the service. There are examples when specialists leave the service, or come and turn around.

Lower prices and specialists' departure will inevitably lead to the degradation of the service as a professional service provider.

There are examples of mark-ups and they are obvious.

The methodology of formation of the Top in its current form is exhausted. Top only on one indicator "number of jobs" generates contradictions, which in the near future will have to be resolved. The number of completed jobs in the conditions of dumping and markups - is not an indicator of professionalism.

There is a need to move to an integral indicator of the top, which forms the top on a professional basis. For example, you can include in the top of the presence of articles as with 5 and 4 (this will make the service available to "old" professionals with 4k). Top on the professional principle will allow to redirect efforts from dumping and forking on writing articles, for example.

Who thinks so?

[Iurii Tokman]

I totally agree with you !

[Dmitry Fedoseev]

Bolkonsky, are you tired of being on top, or is there no way you can catch up with Techno?

[Rustamzhan Salidzhanov]

Integer:  Bolkonsky, are you tired of being on top, or is there no way you can catch up with Techno?

:))))

[Rustamzhan Salidzhanov]

Do you seriously think this will get away from dumping? I highly doubt it.

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I agree, there is a problem, but it seems to me that rating methods will not solve it!

I see a continuing situation with a clear bias.... There are far more performers than customers.

As long as this situation exists the market will dictate its policy towards lowering the cost of orders.

Need to look towards increasing the number of customers - if they begin to line up to programmers, the cost of orders by all the laws of the market - will go up ...

And the method of ranking in order to dictate cost to the market.... is, pardon the expression, the utopia of socialism....

What I think can be done.... e.g. advertise the service work - as a pro programming service by 4 and 5....

In places available to me I have done it.... if this is done en masse.... the situation could change.... but along with new customers, new performers will come :-) again, the market and the wave structure ....

[Andrey F. Zelinsky]

Integer:

Bolkonsky, are you tired of being on top, or is it impossible for Techno to catch up?

So that people do not dwell on my humble person - the topic is not for me - I'll answer straight away: "Personally, I have no goal to catch up and overtake. You can spit in disbelief at my answer and pozlopahuvach. But it is a personal matter. This forum is not just for constructiveness and tolerance.

[TheXpert]

abolk:
In order for people not to get hung up on my humble person - the topic is not for me - I will answer straight away: "I personally have no goal to catch up and overtake.

What is the purpose of the topic?

[Igor Makanu]

abolk: For example, you can include in the top of the availability of articles from both 5 and 4 (this will make the service accessible to "old" professionals with 4k)

articles are different in content and in the presence of a professional approach to programming - there are outright amateur examples, there are real examples for proper code development, imho, articles are absolutely no indicator

As for the proposal: need a differentiatedrate of time / money, then it will be seen who takes as complex orders and how fast they perform, for example, took 5 simple orders for $ 15 made for 2 days --> 48/75 = 0.64, took a cool order for $ 100 made a day, because there were ready to develop their performance indicator 24/100 = 0.24 . And there will be no desire to tire customers those developers who recruit a dozen orders, and will not have time. It seems to be all in praesnom - or quickly work or wait for an expensive order, or do not take orders that rating does not change

ZS:better so 48/75 = (1 - 0.64) *100% = 36% or 24/100 = (1-0.24) *100% = 76%, say performance 76%

[Denis Kirichenko]

IvanIvanov:

I agree, there is a problem, but it seems to me that rating methods will not solve it!

I see a continuing situation with a clear bias.... There are far more performers than customers...

Something needs to be done GLOBALLY CARDINAL to increase the popularity of auto-trading. Then the demand curve will shift from its current point...

[Andrey F. Zelinsky]

IgorM:

Articles vary in content and in the presence of a professional approach to programming - there are blatantly amateurish examples, there are really samples for proper code development, imho, articles are absolutely no indicator

in the part of the sentence: we need a differentiatedtime/money indicator, ...

The "articles" indicator was suggested as an example of a third-party indicator of a developer's professionalism. Articles are vetted and it's not easy to get an article published. The time/money indicator is fixated on the service and does not remove the contradiction of "Top through dumping, scamming".