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fxsaber:

He acknowledged and voiced the reason.

I voiced the reason - people keep almost $6 million in relatively large amounts either on ECN, or on STP. According to your statistics it was Pepper, a popular ECN among the subscribers.

You don't have any evidence to support that assertion. But I do - there is a huge hodgepodge of subscribers from hundreds of brokers. Even the public stats of this signal show that there are about 727 servers - you could look it up yourself.

So, you're wrong here too.


Well the terminology of point you apply, as you decided. A pip on EURUSD = 0.0001 on all other platforms. That's why I applied the term pips.

You just liked to think so. It has nothing to do with reality.


And here is a demonstration of misunderstanding. The subscriber may even have a negative spread, but if there is slippage, it means that the execution prices are worse than those of the provider.

The slippage is the difference in the copier's price comparing to the provider's one. That's why spread has nothing to do with it.

The statistics of slippages is public and sorted and there you can see that slippages are miserable (0-2 pips as a rule).

Don't forget that there are cumulative statistics for all households, when the workouts from home computers are taken into account. If you use our (or someone else's) VPS hosting, then slippage will be guaranteed to reach zero. Ten dollars a month on a VPS is a pittance and reasonable copier behavior.

So most advanced copywriters have a knowingly close to zero sl ippage.


So by corrected calculations, there's no sketch.

The outline is epic, I tell you. And on all counts, it's an outline.

We have a very honest, efficient and open system.

 
Marat Khabiev:

Well, you see that the service is 53% working only for the first 5 providers sorted by the number of subscribers. Maybe you should turn off the other providers right away. And the rules of capitalism are created by you, Renat. In the world of capitalism we fight monopoly by creating a competitive environment.

Subscriber statistics (January 15, 2017):
Total number of subscribers: >3352
Number of subscribers to the first provider by total subscribers: 1135 (33.86% of total subscribers).

Number of subscribers to the first five providers by total subscribers: 1,781 (53.13% of the total number of subscribers).

This is not a healthy situation, Renat. It's not that someone has 1200 subscribers, but that others don't have 1200 subscribers at all.

It is not just an unhealthy situation, it is ridiculous and absurd, when a Signals Expert Advisor without any risks trades on a demo account (cent accounts) and earns tens and hundreds of thousands of NOT-cents on commissions. No responsibility, no worries, profits, hallelujah!

Everyone else, no matter how good the signals are - swallow the dust. Because the masses are drinking coke! - Capitalism.

So who's stopping us from making socialism in the signal service? - Money gets in the way, because these 1200 subscribers bring in additional money in the form of commissions for MQ. If you "spread" subscribers over signals, then some of them will get disappointed and leave... However, they are not so enthusiastic about it.

I do not blame anybody. Money is money and business is business.

 
Renat Fatkhullin:

You are talking nonsense and are tired of your attempts and complaints to equalize what cannot be equalized.

Renat, this is not a natural phenomenon so you can't change anything, and no one is talking about an equation
Renat Fatkhullin:

1. There is no monopoly.

Of course there is no point in arguing about it, and time will tell.

Renat Fatkhullin:

2. All have equal opportunities and all data is visible to all.

The traders make their choice.

Traders make their own choice, but can you call it objective?

 
Renat Fatkhullin:

You have no evidence for this assertion. I do - there is a huge hodgepodge of subscribers from hundreds of brokers. Even the public stats of this signal show that there are about 727 servers - you could look that up yourself.

The kitchens have the lowest slippage, unfortunately. I wouldn't recommend them to subscribers.

You just liked to think so. It has nothing to do with reality.

Real-time spread monitors (where the spread is not whole in pips) and other platforms have little to do with pleasing to think about.

Slippage statistics are public and sorted and you can see there that slippages are minuscule (0-2 pips usually).

Don't forget that there are cumulative statistics for all households when the workouts from home computers are taken into account. If you use our (or someone else's) VPS hosting, then slippage will be guaranteed to reach zero. Ten dollars a month on a VPS is a pittance and a reasonable copycat behavior.

So most of the advanced copywriters have a knowingly close to zero slippage.

We will have to create a code, which will show the MO of any Signal in pips. No signal service does that at the moment. As soon as this value of MP will be known, we will be able to say right away what maximal slippage is acceptable not to be in the red.

This is an epic set, I can tell you. It's an epic outline on all counts.

We have a very honest, efficient and open system.

I do not get any pleasure from slanders. Read

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1200 subscribers!!!

fxsaber, 2017.01.16 18:33

Anyway, would someone responsible for Signals explain what's in there and what they're eating with. I'm surprised that with its existence for so long, it's still far from clear.

I.e., the only wish is to understand. And what someone has is just an example to sort it out.
 
fxsaber:

That is, the only desire is to understand. And what someone has is just an example to figure out.

I've been watching the signals for a long time -- and in the feedback subscribers write what's wrong.

Well -- I haven't seen any complaints about the results of opening/closing on points.

the complaints about wrong lot size, different balance - not even complaints, but requests to help me adjust the lot size - that's a common thing.

 
Andrey F. Zelinsky:

I've been watching the signals for a long time -- and in the feedback subscribers write what's wrong.

Well -- I have not seen any complaints about the results of opening/closing on points.

the complaints about wrong lot size, not according to balance -- and not even complaints, but requests to help me adjust the lot size -- that's what they have and often

Thanks, that completes the picture. Thanks to the branch, I realized from the slips that there is a five digit point, that lagging home comps are taken into account when calculating them. And that there is absolutely no calculation of MO in points.

Complaints about slippage should be minimal because the average subscriber sees that a trade closed at 500 pips and slipped by only 20. So, it seems to him/her that it is not critical. He or she does not see that this case should be statistically evaluated rather than by one or two trades. Therefore, slips, really, practically should not be discussed by subscribers. Moreover, they all think that it is necessary just to find the right broker.

Once there was a Signal in the top about a year ago (I don't remember exactly). I think it was an averaging agent (with few exceptions, almost all of them are). He was very popular with subscribers (many hundreds). And was in the plus, but gave losses, as well as well in some NoName-broker was open. In the end, do not know what became of it. You should remember, if you look at the Signals.

I will also look at slippages. Nobody pays much attention to them or to spreads. You know, the spread is higher but it is not so much.

 
fxsaber:

Once there was a Signal in the top about a year ago (I don't remember exactly). I think the averager (with few exceptions, almost all are like that). It was very popular with subscribers (many hundreds). And was in the plus, but gave losses, as well as well in some NoName-broker was open. In the end, do not know what became of it. You should remember, if you look at the Signals.

There was a signal a few years ago - the first precedent with a large number of subscribers - was when a free signal with 1000 subscribers suddenly made the provider pay (the shop was shut down and this is no longer possible).

So this signal was quickly lost - there were definitely excessive risks.

Provider tried to "twitch" a few times, but it did not work.

Now I will try to find a link to it - I do not remember, but Renat had a mention of it in his profile, maybe it is still there.

p.s. Here is a link to this signal https://www.mql5.com/ru/signals/13383-- dead signal.

And here's a link to a mention in Renat's profile https://www.mql5.com/ru/users/Renat/page4?#userActions-- from the words"Records of our town ... "

fxsaber, is this the signal you meant?

 
Andrey F. Zelinsky:

fxsaber, is this the signal you meant?

No, there was a different one. I remembered that there were two providers with the same last name. Maybe they were registered to brothers.
 
Vasiliy Sokolov:

This signal is a typicalsurvivor's mistake.

I do not agree that in this case there is a "survivor's mistake".

If here, as they said above - there is unprecedented spot advertising from DC, other types of advertising - then any more or less successful signal can be promoted.

It's not the "survivor's mistake" anymore - it's the "advantage of the first in time" to jump into the free niche of possibilities - as a rule, the shop closes down, because the possibilities of other people trying to "jump" into the niche of possibilities are leveled out

 
My signals do not get into the ranking at all no matter how much I try to reverse the effect at +100% yield 1000 place was at 200% 3000 place was. I'm just stunned by such a rating calculation.
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