Any great idea about HEDGING positions welcome here - page 15

Chris Mukengeshayi
1706
Chris Mukengeshayi  
CrisZind:

he lost the same exact amount of money in 2016



but that was 2% of his account anyway

Seyedmajid Masharian:

why lucky men are so rare?

no one can make billions of dollars during several years by just being lucky..

Luke is 1 ,2 or 3 times not most of the times.

he is a genius man i think with deep understanding about how market are working and market structure.

he can go in depth in fundamental analysis in macro economies.

and yes even he had losing positions . so most of us can not understand markets deeply as well as he do. so hedging is necessary

for us to make consistent profit in the long term

but thanks for your comment.

By reading the info which CrisZind has shared with us, it totally prove to us that Mr Soros is a gambler, he took his chances based on his feeling and boom it backfire him.

Successful trader who are disciplined don't like to gamble with they hard earning, sometime its better to walk way from the market if you are unsure of what could happen, especially if you feel that the next couple of hours the market can be a " double edged sword ", one need to just remember that there are many other days to trades and make profit.

Seyedmajid Masharian
1838
Seyedmajid Masharian  
Sergey Golubev:

thank you for your guide.

Seyedmajid Masharian
1838
Seyedmajid Masharian  
Seyedmajid Masharian:

lets finish useless debates and  start focusing on hedging systems...

see the picture please.


this is a sure fire hedging strategy ...


the 1st problem is 1.this system only works on trending markets and in middle term or long term choppy market it will fail if will not blow up your trading account.

question: which strategy is better for that to don't fail in choppy markets and even make money in such conditions .?


the 2nd problem is by opening each new position you have to bring your tp point further to make the same amount of profit as initial trade.

question: what to do to decrease trade opening number in long term choppy market.?


the 3rd problem is spread and its widening by broker.

question: what to do if broker widened its spread so recovery zone will be wider . so some opposite trades in both directions will be closer to each other

here is the image


and some of them will be further from each other.


the 4th problem is fast market movement and price gaps that causes opposite orders open further that trader wanted.

question:what to do if between 1st buy and 1st sell or 2nd buy and 2nd sell or any other consecutive trades market will make a huge price gap ?

because this causes 2 consecutive orders placing far from each other while another orders are close to each other.

how to manage such situations?


these are not all problems that we must resolve them but an important part of them i will add further question later...

don't forget using trailing stops can improve you success by increasing your winners and decreasing your risks.



please answer each question on its place.

please discuss about above thread not soros or any other non related things here.

let us discuss about only hedging here.

Keith Watford
Moderator
28257
Keith Watford  
Seyedmajid Masharian:

please discuss about above thread not soros or any other non related things here.

let us discuss about only hedging here.

Who started discussing Soros?

Marco vd Heijden
Moderator
13435
Marco vd Heijden  
Seyedmajid Masharian:

 warren buffet 

Seyedmajid Masharian:

 soros 

Seyedmajid Masharian
1838
Seyedmajid Masharian  
Marco vd Heijden:

i use those names for another traders to show them that hedging is the only way to be consistently profitable.

but i didn't want users to discuss about them only instead of hedging itself...

Chris Mukengeshayi
1706
Chris Mukengeshayi  
Seyedmajid Masharian:

i use those names for another traders to show them that hedging is the only way to be consistently profitable.

but i didn't want users to discuss about them only instead of hedging itself...

Hedging is not the only way to be profitable all the time.

Knowledge and discipline on a winning strategy is the key, not every strategy will be profitable at 100%, you will have to accept losses at some point but stick to the winning strategy with discipline, your winning ratio should be 3:1 at minimum when you have a winning strategy.

Always remember money management and the market's trend are your best friend.

Seyedmajid Masharian
1838
Seyedmajid Masharian  
Chris Mukengeshayi:

Hedging is not the only way to be profitable all the time.

Knowledge and discipline on a winning strategy is the key, not every strategy will be profitable at 100%, you will have to accept losses at some point but stick to the winning strategy with discipline, your winning ratio should be 3:1 at minimum when you have a winning strategy.

Always remember money management and the market's trend are your best friend.

the only strategy that can make money in every market conditions is hedging.

all another strategies are working on just trending market or choppy market and instantly after market change its conditions

they start to lose.

Keith Watford
Moderator
28257
Keith Watford  
Seyedmajid Masharian:

the only strategy that can make money in every market conditions is hedging.

all another strategies are working on just trending market or choppy market and instantly after market change its conditions

they start to lose.

Your statement just shows how little you know about trading. "Hedging" is not a strategy and can never make money in any Market conditions. Proper Hedging is a method to minimise risk, not a strategy. The "Hedging" that you refer to just freezes profit/loss, but possibly with additional and unnecessary costs with commissions, swaps and spread.

Show a simple "strategy", using "hedging" that makes a profit. Of course, you can't because one does not exist.

Seyedmajid Masharian
1838
Seyedmajid Masharian  
Keith Watford:

Your statement just shows how little you know about trading. "Hedging" is not a strategy and can never make money in any Market conditions. Proper Hedging is a method to minimise risk, not a strategy. The "Hedging" that you refer to just freezes profit/loss, but possibly with additional and unnecessary costs with commissions, swaps and spread.

Show a simple "strategy", using "hedging" that makes a profit. Of course, you can't because one does not exist.

You can think as you want i am little trader show us your statement if you are a big trader. If you can not resolve a problem its up to you not that problem if your brain is not too fast to resolve such problem it is not reason that anothr traders brain can not do that...