Trailing TP - page 13

 
Georgiy Merts #:

How do you imagine it?

very simple. a trawl is not and cannot be part of the tC, it's a plus on top, it has to be detachable.

 
Perhaps, Georgi, if you don't put a stop, it will hit. But in the strategy above, there is a stop and it is adequate to the initial take. I don't think there have been any significant drawdowns in 20 years. Although this is of course a basic strategy.
 
Andrei Trukhanovich #:

The trawl is not and cannot be part of the MU, it's a plus on top, it has to be detachable.

Yes. That's right.
 
Andrei Trukhanovich #:

very simple. the trawl is not and cannot be part of the tc, it's a plus on top, it has to be separable.

I disagree. The trawl is a fundamental part of the TC. And in no way separable from it.

I strongly insist that the main thing in the system is the support. If the tracking corresponds to the market - then the entries can be even by a coin, and the system will still be profitable. If the support doesn't correspond to the market - even very good entries will be lost due to support errors.

Trall (whether TP or SL) is an integral part of escorting. And so, in my opinion, it is not only not a "plus from above", it is the very essence of the system. There is no way to separate it, the system changes fundamentally.

By the way, and my experience with systems with and without tralls - shows that they work significantly differently on the same symbol, and the optimum levels in them are also significantly different.
 
Aleksei Stepanenko #:
Perhaps, Georgi, if you don't put a stop, it will hit. But in that strategy above, there is a stop and it is adequate to the initial take. I don't think we've had any significant drawdowns in 20 years. Although this is of course a basic strategy.

And if you put a protective stop, it severely limits profits, as I said before.

 
Aleksei Stepanenko #:
Perhaps, George, if you don't put a stop, it will hit. But in that strategy above, there is a stop and it is adequate for the initial take. I don't think there have been any major drawdowns in 20 years. Although this is of course a basic strategy.

It is foolish to prioritise a strategy parameter that is unrelated to the PRICE! All these artificial adaptations may work for a SOMETHING in excess... But that's all...

Do a normal test over two years ( or more ) to find out the viability of the strategy, and get the RESULT! - VOLUME of zero... Is it worth it...?

 
Georgiy Merts #:

I'm talking about the behaviour of the system with the TA trawl. It takes a little, but every time in the plus side. Until it misses the uptrend. And then the trawl TP approaches the price, but the price runs away from it. The losses turn out to be very large. The system behaviour is very similar to Martin's. Although, as you correctly noted, the structure of such systems significantly differs.

And about "put it out there"... I have too much tied up in my internal library. Don't they have such systems in kodobase

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Spc, Georgi, it only looks like there's a significant plum and that's it, as if on a martin poured.... :-) .... I will have a look. Although they already posted the trawl there above......



 
Georgiy Merts #:

I disagree. Thrall is a fundamental part of TC. And in no way separate from it.

I strongly insist that the main thing in the system is support. If the support corresponds to the market - then the entries can be even on a coin, and the system will still be profitable. If support doesn't correspond to the market - even very good entries will be lost due to support errors.

Trall (whether TP or SL) is an integral part of escorting. And so, in my opinion, it is not only not a "plus from above", it is the very essence of the system. There is no way to separate it, the system changes fundamentally.

Trawl cannot be the essence of the system. Trawl is just an option. And trawl TP is a specific option, which can be used at turning points. I see it that way. And I see this confirmation in Alexey's experiment using the example of a flat strategy.
 
Serqey Nikitin #:

It is stupid to prioritise a strategy parameter that is not related to PRICE!

How can it be "unrelated" if the optimisation selects the level that is most adequate to the price movements?

Or what do you mean?

 
Sergey Gridnev #:
Trawl cannot be the essence of a system. Trawl is just an option. And the trawl TP is an option, which can be used at turning points. I see it that way. And I see this confirmation in Alexey's experiment using the example of a flat strategy.

Noooo.

Thrall is not an option. It is the essence of accompaniment. A tralle cannot be an "option", because any system has one or the other. So how can you call something that is necessarily present in any system an 'option'?

As for "applied at reversal moments" ... I gave the balance graph of my systems operating based on TP trilling above. They are not many, but they are there, and they work. And some have been working for a long time.
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