Interesting and Humour - page 4197

 
Maxim Dmitrievsky:

OK, I approve, you can write a doctrine on the evolution of bin consciousness through divine transmutation by positive energy

the point is that there is no doctrine here, everything is simple and logical without any abstruse and inventing non-existent things, because the divine plan and positive energy plus the possibility of awareness of it are objectively existing natural phenomena that everyone can check in practice without any dancing with tambourines...
 

I would also like to remind you that according to the ancient beliefs, the world spontaneously arose out of chaos,
or rather first out of chaos came the original deity who created the original world and then the new gods,
then the new gods kill the first deity and create the world as it is now.
(see Enuma Elish, Heliopolitan cosmogony, Greek myths, Germanic-Scandinavian, Hinduism and almost any cosmogony of any nation) -
the plot is almost the same, everywhere there's water, the primordial ocean, chaos, as the primordial essence out of which everything spontaneously emerges,
it's an intuitive idea of the ancients about the origin of life,
later religions simply retold the same story, including the Bible,
it also says that "the spirit of God hovered over the water",
and that generally these savage notions correlate with the scientific view of the emergence of life from water,
but in a symbolic, poetic way, of course,
it's very important to note that in the ancient myths there are marshes or springs of some kind,
This can reflect the fact that civilization developed in the vicinity of rivers and fertile soils (Nile, Mesopotamia, Indus...)
also a very important point in any myths practically -
the killing of a primary deity - and by his own offspring,
often in the form of a dragon or a giant,
the killing of Tiamat by Marduk in Sumerian mythology, the killing of Ymir in Germanic mythology, Purushu in Hinduism, etc.
is a symbolic sacrifice, then the dismemberment of the primary deity and the creation of the world from his body,
then the new gods suffer the same fate before the next generation of gods,
it's a titanomachy plot - the massacre of the Titans in Greek, the Jotuns in Germanic mythology, the Fomorians in Celtic...
but sometimes murder is not understood as murder, but as imprisonment or overthrow,
we can conventionally divide two eras in mythmaking:
1 - the age of ancient chaos - the kingdom of the dragon and the giants
2 - the era of a new order - the kingdom of new gods.
of course new gods are killed each time and replaced by newer ones ))))
perhaps this is a symbolic retelling of the victory of some nations over others...
but the defeated dragon pops up from time to time:
it's also the serpent Apop, who devours the Sun every night,
it's even the biblical Leviathan and even the dragon of the Apocalypse,
these plots seem to say, or hint, that the age of chaos is never gone forever,
and there's a kind of periodic or episodic cyclicity,
there is even a plot of confrontation with the dragon of chaos on the coat of arms of Moscow,
I won't describe it here in detail, but it also goes along these lines,
in short, the ancient chaos is not completely defeated, it is still present in the world,
and it's probably not defeated as a matter of principle,
you could make a parallel and call chaos evil and the other side good,
but that's too simplistic an approach, suitable only for monotheism with its dichotomous classification,
it's much more interesting to see it as a fundamental confrontation between two archetypes:
chaos is self-organisation and freedom, and the deity with the spear (usually the thunderer) represents royal power,
that is, it is a confrontation between decentralized and centralized power, democracy and despotism,
in this vein, it is clear why "chaos" cannot be defeated, and the cyclical return and departure is a change of historical epochs...
it's also interesting to note the consistently permanent sacralisation of royal and generally any centralised power,
it's reflected in the symbols that are exploited and they're of course taken from ancient mythology,
I won't go into it too much, but there are parallels that are better left uncovered...
in a nutshell, centralized power often constructs its myth to "mentally structure" its subjects,
the sacralization of the source of power and its "divinity" or "chosenness" is a central theme of official mythology,
it's easy to see why considerable effort is put into sacralisation -
because usually no rational explanation can be found for the established order,
and if you can't do it on the rational level, you have to do it on the irrational level,
because the irrational component is always present, both in ancient times and now...

 
transcendreamer:

I would also like to remind you that according to the ancient beliefs, the world spontaneously arose out of chaos,
or rather first out of chaos came the original deity who created the original world and then the new gods,
then the new gods kill the first deity and create the world as it is now.

If the ancients died out killing each other, it means they did not understand something or understood something wrong... That is why you can and should examine the world directly, not through the distorted and dark prism of myths...
 
Andrei:
The difficulty is that it's hard to explain to a robot (pot) that someone created it... it's beyond his level of comprehension of the world... But the situation can be solved if we are talking about a human pot

But this does not change the fact that the potter and the pot have the same nature (the same foundations, the same physical laws)

 
Andrei:
If the ancients died out killing each other, it means that they did not understand something or understood it wrongly... Therefore, it is possible and necessary to explore the world directly, rather than through the distorted and dark prism of myths...

modern human consciousness is often not much different from that of a savage

except for a more comfortable cave and the internet.

 
transcendreamer:

But that does not change the fact that the potter and the pot have the same nature (the same foundations, the same physical laws)

The potter is only influenced by physical laws, if he can also apply divine laws to himself, then he can become a potter...

 
transcendreamer:

modern human consciousness is often not much different from that of a savage

except for a more comfortable cave and the internet.

consciousness does not stand still, the consciousness of those savages is long gone, it has evolved many times over... But consciousness is still at the primitive level of the savage...
 
transcendreamer:

modern human consciousness is often not much different from that of a savage

except for the more comfortable cave and the internet.

Possibly it is necessary to add here that evolutionarily a human being is rather archaic, the modern civilization is a very short period of time in comparison with ancient epochs and an even bigger layer of prehistoric time, and those structures and principles of consciousness which were formed at that time certainly cannot evolve so quickly into something else

this explains the completely irrational faith of some modern people, even educated ones, but something makes them believe in all kinds of nonsense - these are the very irrational structures of consciousness that are inherited from the past

 

transcendreamer:

But something makes them believe all sorts of nonsense - these are the very irrational structures of consciousness that are inherited from the past

From the past came layers of dark energies as a result of denying the divine layer with its light energy... This dark energy suppresses consciousness and makes you believe all kinds of nonsense...

 
Andrei:

Layers of dark energies are inherited from the past as a result of denying the divine layer with its light energy... This dark energy suppresses consciousness and makes you believe all kinds of nonsense...

Your post clearly confirms this ))))))))))))))))))

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