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qip, and it seems to me that to understand what category the customer belongs to, it is not necessary for him to be "his" or "someone else's". It is enough to look at the price of the order and the TOR material. I think this is what Alexander(f2011) wrote about. Let him correct me if I'm wrong....
Of course, a bull coder with a nice avatar and a price tag of 10 quid will get an order faster than a professional with a minimum order of 300 ue.
There was a question where the figures come from. I looked at the statistics of Freelance https://www.mql5.com/ru/job/developers:
-- at Composter -- the average price is $300 -- that's why Composter determines the bottom line (adjusts it to himself).
If you add his insightful conclusion here:
If you want to make a name for yourself, work hard, for free, and in public.
-- then all those who in Freelance work a lot, publicly, but for 10 quid -- all according to Komposter's classification -- some kind of coders.
-- and those coders, according to him:
Where's the quality? In freelancing? I never said that.
p.s. That's how composterisation works.
Only all such gurus talk a lot and not in moderation:
I have had such situations many times, and I too have had work done through the service. Even when I said "the usual way - one price, through the service - plus 5%". Sometimes it's more convenient.
-- it's no longer possible to tell where in Freelance is the fulfilment of work and where is the simple conversion of funds
Ha-ha-ha, you got him.) Yeah. But he's probably a freelancer.
Why are we arguing? Everyone has his own truth of life. Probably applies to me too, you should write "from my personal experience", "perhaps you should do it like this", "I did it this way and it's good" well that is not to advise a priori, but to share experience. Actually I did so, I said that I tried to do as a composter and I failed and since then I use the experience of our brothers from India and China )
Ha-ha-ha, you got him.) Yeah. But he's not in the main category, but I think he's a full-fledged freelancer with the right to speak on behalf of freelancers.
On what basis do you draw that conclusion? Based on what he says about himself? If his chatter about himself on the forum to collect ...
In the products that he sells in the market he once made a note in the description, saying that the product is from the greatest programmer and trader -- so even MK asked him to present himself more modestly.
p.s. Chatter, chatter, chatter ... "Much, free and public"
On what basis is this conclusion drawn?
Intuition and presumption of faith to man )
Okay, I didn't read the whole thread at first, I just skimmed through it. It makes a little more sense now.
One observation. I can see from the discussion that you don't have much experience. On freelancing is very common practice such as order aggregators, intermediaries. These are people or groups of people who act as freelancers themselves, collect available requests from the same exchanges and work as intermediaries. It can be a single person and a group of several. It can be a Hindu aunt, or it can be Ivan Ivanovich z Maxim Petrovich. Usually they already have their own pool of performers to whom they promptly pass orders. That's usually all the wonderful tops are these are such fictitious freelancers. They are naturally with a lot of experience of contracts with the customer, they usually do not inflate the price, their statistics are good, their profile and work experience is very good and convincing. Kind of like a freelancer, but cool. The stats are good and it's as if they're not inflated. And yes, the code is not the best in the end, for the actual performer is random and not highly motivated.
ZY I tried to work with them, it makes no sense to work with them. Percentage they take a large, in the work with the customer do not help, cheat on the money.
Yes, one of the broad ones, but not the only one.
Well, yes, not the only one. Only that customer who has quality as the 1st point above money will choose the performer in the top ten, i.e. in someone else's reality. There are also other small factions, but if we are talking about promotion in the top, then it is worth targeting 4/5 to get access to the 5th elite as a bonus.
Okay, I didn't read the whole thread at first, I just skimmed through it. It makes a little more sense now.
One observation. I can see from the discussion that you don't have much experience. On freelancing is very common practice such as order aggregators, intermediaries. These are people or groups of people who act as freelancers themselves, collect available requests from the same exchanges and work as intermediaries. It can be a single person and a group of several. It can be a Hindu aunt, or it can be Ivan Ivanovich z Maxim Petrovich. Usually they already have their own pool of performers to whom they promptly pass orders. That's usually all the wonderful tops are these are such fictitious freelancers. They are naturally with a lot of experience of contracts with the customer, they usually do not inflate the price, their statistics are good, their profile and work experience is very good and convincing. Kind of like a freelancer, but cool. The stats are good and it's as if they're not inflated. And yes, the code is not the best in the end, for the actual performer is random and not highly motivated.
ZY I tried to work with them, it makes no sense to work with them. Percentage they take a large, in the work with the customer do not help, cheat on the money.
It is like an arbitrage operation of an asset between different sites.
In this case, the difference = reputation, name, rating andtp1 - reputaiya, rating andtp 2 = profit. Selling your name, you will devalue it in a moment because the counterparty may not have the same professionalism, etc.
Please clarify the question. It is difficult to answer questions like "why do you live?".
The question is very simple - why did you come to this thread and leave a comment. Or more broadly, to this resource.
I thought that the purpose is to share experience, so I started asking - and where, in fact, the experience is (the profile is empty).
But, apparently, I just don't understand the underlying goals.
If coders with glitchy, low-quality codes don't take root, then who is there if you still have to redo it for some people sometimes?
There is no violation of logic.
They don't take root - it doesn't mean that they don't fulfil any orders. They may work for a while and then leave.
And I don't divide all programmers into 2 categories (after which you don't have to rewrite the rest).
Geez, why do you have to be so unintelligent? "An intenet survey showed that 100% of users have internet". A successful performer knows HIS category of customers (and not even her, but only its already filtered representatives). And when you try to tell him something different from his understanding, he rushes sputtering and proving on his experience that HE KNOWS WHAT THE CUSTOMER NEEDS AND HOW TO WORK!!!!!!!!. AND HIS CATEGORY OF CUSTOMERS IS THE BIGGEST!!!!!!
Apart from "from the inside", I also observe a little from the outside. Not as deeply as Bolkonsky, of course, but still.
And my experience allows me to say that there is a category of customers who are ready to pay for understanding and quality.
I'm not saying that it's the only one or the biggest. But thanks to it, you can make it in Freelance without doing work for $10.
Andrei, by God, don't waste your precious time on me.
All I'm doing is laundering money through MQ for 5.8%.