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komposter:
If you want to earn a name, work hard, for free and publicly.
Write 10 articles, publish 40-50 handy and good codes in the database, put out some free products.
Clients will come, don't worry.
gip:
Догадайся с трех раз, почему на фрилансе успешны индусы, паки, украинцы?
If the country is in a mess and you want to eat, all methods work. Only a hungry person can program for 10-30 quid with enthusiasm.
Programming with enthusiasm can be done by an enthusiast or a professional besides a beggar and a starving person.
I agree. I also want to participate in freelancing - 10 for any order. Just for the experience, despite the fact that to professionalism to me as to the moon yet.
When I recruit orders on the principle of professionalism, I get no orders at all, when I recruit on the principle of marketing and lying, I get some portfolio of orders. The difference in labour costs for search is not just big, it is fundamental.
If I want to have more orders, I will write in my profile - guru of all programming, super duper specialist, wrote not one hundred grails. Recently came to the site to help the suffering for a small fee. If you order an advisor - get a hint - where to look for the grail. etc. I will show you the true path.
My main point, which I voiced, is that the professional approach voiced by the composter is unacceptable for a freelancer today....
I agree. It will be so until there is no expertise and professional evaluation of the work done by a third disinterested person whose authority is unquestionable. Which is not to be expected, because the cost of creating a robot will increase, which is unlikely to take someone will take on ... after all, the average order price is about $35-50. Correct me if I'm wrong.....
Many decent programmers have left and will leave Freelance....
Another factor is the low quality of technical assignments. I mean the level of trading idea... Mostly it's the level of "crossing mash + martingale"....
Yes, as if there are solutions for promoting the pros on a freelance exchange. But nobody is interested in this now, in the sense of the owners of exchanges, while primitive monetisation schemes and the collection of market tops are still in operation.
I've done this at least twice on freelancing, seriously invested. Both times it did not bring a decent return. I'm not a writer, I'm a programmer. But it is much more effective to pump fake stuff into a profile. I have an example of mql, the indicator has spread over the network, about 10k downloads. How many clients do you think it brought me? А? 0! Zero! Even when I persistently give the client links to my work, it does not convince anyone that I am a capable programmer. Guess three times why Indians, Pakis, Ukrainians are successful in freelancing? Because people don't bother initially and just lie in their profile and CV. You say "work hard, free and public", I say "lie hard, beautifully and publicly". C'est la vie. That's freelancing, baby. Advertising, marketing. The same goes for all sorts of analysts, training centres, "successful traders", managers.
Well, of course, only low Ukrainians and Indians are dirty PR, that's why they are in the top ;)
Maybe we have different idea of "free and work hard"? I see in your profile one indicator and 5 forum threads (that's a total from 4k and from 5k). Or were you talking about some of your other achievements?
Before I got my first order (there was no talk about freelancing back then), I actively participated in terminal and language development for 2 years, posted codes (I didn't have a base either), started writing articles. And I got the order not because I was looking for it and PR, but because a person found me and asked me to make a robot for him.
This is rather a modern trend - without investing shit, count on new clients and recognition. Don't look into someone else's plate, but do it for yourself. And you'll be happy.
Imho, of course.
Well, of course, only low Ukrainians with Indians dirty PR, so in the top ;)
Maybe we have different idea of "free and work hard"? I see in your profile one indicator and 5 forum threads (that's a total from 4k and from 5k). Or were you talking about some of your other achievements?
Before I got my first order (there was no talk about freelancing back then), I actively participated in terminal and language development for 2 years, posted codes (I didn't have a base either), started writing articles. And I got the order not because I was looking for it and PR, but because a person found me and asked me to make a robot for him.
This is rather a modern trend - without investing shit, count on new clients and recognition. Don't look into someone else's plate, but do it for yourself. And you will be happy.
Imho, of course.
"Advice is good for the one who gives it."
ZЫЫ: you teach bad things now, he will write articles, and then someone will read it all and take it at face value.
I somehow immediately with orders went, on the four still, took just for the sake of ideas. You could say on enthusiasm. Then the crisis... so I stayed coding.
By the way, one Ukrainian pushed me in this direction, for which I thank him very much. I doubted for a long time whether it was worth it to go free.
Well, of course, only low Ukrainians with Indians dirty PR, so in the top ;)
Maybe we have different idea of "free and work hard"? I see in your profile one indicator and 5 forum threads (that's a total from 4k and from 5k). Or were you talking about some of your other achievements?
Before I got my first order (there was no talk about freelancing back then), I actively participated in terminal and language development for 2 years, posted codes (I didn't have a base either), started writing articles. And I got the order not because I was looking for it and PR, but because a person found me and asked me to make a robot for him.
This is rather a modern trend - without investing shit, count on new clients and recognition. Don't look into someone else's plate, but do it for yourself. And you will be happy.
Imho, of course.
"in the development of the terminal and language."
I'm sorry, but this terminal doesn't even have elementary things necessary for coding. There is no accounting system, no applied object system, no storage adapted to the needs of the consumer, etc. From the technical point of view, this product is 10-20 years behind the modern level (and it was known and I wrote about it at the stage of its creation). I'm sorry, what development were you talking about? I would be ashamed of such work.
I do my own work and I have achieved happiness. I wrote about something completely different, try to understand. You and I are deviations, I wrote about the norm. Advice is really good for those who write it, not for those who read it. As an analyst I wrote about what works now, and what works well is the Hindu approach. And if a good programmer, advising him to lose two years is not good either, while a bullcoder will get his first order in a week and get paid, while a good programmer sucks his paw.
"Advice is good for the one who gives it."
SZY: you teach bad things now, he will write articles, and then someone will read it all and take it at face value.
I somehow immediately with orders went, on the four still, took just for the sake of ideas. You could say on enthusiasm. Then the crisis... so I stayed coding.
By the way, one Ukrainian pushed me in this direction, for which I thank him very much. I doubted for a long time whether I should go to free bread.