How to make giant profits on forex? - page 24

 
Vitaly Muzichenko:

There are risks everywhere, you can walk out the driveway and get run over by a parking car, and it's all for free :)

If you are a forex broker, at least the risks are lower, you have no money but you are alive.

If you have a PAMM account, you will lose it and some gangster investor will cut you down).

 
Aleksander:

Yes - on a 23% pullback - put a trade (relative to what was the general movement - if up - Selim to TP46% = if down - buy with the same target

Stoploss - this is 100% - it's the same rollover level with increasing lot (martini)

And once it was suggested exactly the opposite: not to open in the direction of the pullback, but in the direction of the main move.

например... по евреусд... тф можно 5-15 минут...
например ищешь от точки отсчёта движучку... так... щас чисто на вскидку. ну пускай прибыль будет от 15 пунктов и выше... так, ищешь движучку вниз (описываю селочный алгоритм - для баек тоже самое, но наоборот) - 
движучку вниз минимум на 60 пунктов... как эти 60 пунктов цена прошла (4 х знак имеется ввиду) - начинаешь отслеживать обратное движение в 25% - если 25 не дестигло и ниже пошло, то ждёшь всё одно откат в 25%... 
для 60 п это будут 15 п, если ниже, к примеру 90 п - то откат 24 п... - вот.. достигли отката - теперь в сторону движения открываем Селл отложенную сделку на границе движучки = 60 п или чего достигли ранее напр. 
90 п - с тейком в эти 25% и стопом таким же... - на уровне стопа открываем байку - с тп в 25% движучки и сл таким же - и смотрим куда пойдёт...
засим если например сделку зацепило и стопарь сработал (т.е. сработала обратная сделка) то у стопаря сделки выставляем противоположную по мартини - обычно получаемый расколбас - если он и появится во время 
флета рынка - составит 3-4 максимум колебаний - ну то есть идеально для мартини подходит...
если сработал тейк - то от уровня выставления сделки начинаем новый поиск минимума рынка - движучки в 60 пунктов... если же сработала обратка, или цена становится выше новой точки отсчёта - то точку двигаем вслед за ценой....
Does this mean that it doesn't really matter where you open, as long as the MM is based on trade statistics?

 
And another question Aleksander:
We have dumb strategy 5 minutes TF - buy if Close[1] > Close[2], SL and TP are equal 200 points (5 digits), we have a smooth loss due to spread.
Transaction statistics for 20 years are as follows
000000000001 - 3
00000000001 - 5
0000000001 - 18
00000000001 - 40 times(on the ninth time after SL was TP)
00000001 - 69
0000001 - 142
000001 - 309
00001 - 608
0001 - 1265
001 - 2812 times (third time after SL was TP)
01 - 6164 times (for the second time after SL was TP)
10 - 6052 times (for the second time after TP it was SL)
110 - 2712
1110 - 1262
11110 - 616
111110 - 286
1111110 - 140
11111110 - 58
111111110 - 29
1111111110 - 15
11111111110 - 7
111111111110 - 3
1111111111110 - 1

11111111111110 - 1

What can be done with MM here?

1) If for example we wait virtually three times in a row for SL 000 and bet 4 times, we will have 1265 times TP against SL(608+309+142+69+40+18+5+3=1194). As a result 1265-1194=+71TP in the end this miserable profit will be eaten up by spread for 2459 trades
2) If you apply a regular SMP, the initial lot may increase by 8 times(000000000001 - 0001= 8 SL left in a row). If the deposit is not big, you can take the starting lot 0.01 then the maximum possible lot will be 2.56 and that is just to win back one initial bet of 200 pips. As a result, the profit is also around zero or less because of the spread.
I think there is no sense to use MM for such dull strategies, we should use more complicated strategies and use them for searching MM for huge profits.

 
ironfelx:
And another question Aleksander:
We have dumb strategy 5 minute TF - buy if Close[1] > Close[2], SL and TP - the same 200 points (5 digits), we have a smooth loss due to spread.
Transaction statistics for 20 years are as follows
000000000001 - 3
00000000001 - 5
0000000001 - 18
00000000001 - 40 times(on the ninth time after SL was TP)
00000001 - 69
0000001 - 142
000001 - 309
00001 - 608
0001 - 1265
001 - 2812 times (third time after SL was TP)
01 - 6164 times (for the second time after SL was TP)
10 - 6052 times (for the second time after TP it was SL)
110 - 2712
1110 - 1262
11110 - 616
111110 - 286
1111110 - 140
11111110 - 58
111111110 - 29
1111111110 - 15
11111111110 - 7
111111111110 - 3
1111111111110 - 1

11111111111110 - 1

What can be done with MM here?

1) If for example we wait virtually three times in a row for SL 000 and bet 4 times, we will have 1265 times TP against SL(608+309+142+69+40+18+5+3=1194). As a result 1265-1194=+71TP in the end this miserable profit will be eaten up by spread for 2459 trades
2) If you apply a regular SMP, the initial lot may increase by 8 times(000000000001 - 0001= 8 SL left in a row). If the deposit is not big, you can take the starting lot 0.01 then the maximum possible lot will be 2.56 and that is just to win back one initial bet of 200 pips. As a result, the profit is also around zero or less because of the spread.
I think there is no sense to use MM for such stupid strategies, we should use more complicated strategies and use them for searching MM for huge profits.

You are right, you need better signals to enter. So most of deals are closed in profit without Martin, then there are less situations where Martin is used and therefore the probability of getting into huge drawdown is significantly reduced.

 
khorosh:

You're right, you need better signals to enter. So that most of the trades are closed in profit without martin, then there will be fewer situations when martin is connected and consequently the probability of getting into a large drawdown is significantly reduced.

Do you think this is possible? Have you ever managed to do it?
 
Ivan_Invanov:
Do you think this is even possible? Have you been able to do it?

Yes, this is from my practical experience. You can see the results of the test here .

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khorosh:

You're right, you need better signals to enter. Then there will be fewer situations when a margin is connected and consequently the probability of getting into a large drawdown is significantly reduced.

In other words, may I add different filters - indicators, price action, TA, FA and reduce it to the following distribution?

00000001 - 3
0000001 - 20
000001 - 80
00001 - 150
0001 - 1265
001 - 2812 times(third time after SL was TP )
01 - 6164 times (for the second time after SL it was TP)


1265-(150+80+20+3=253) = +1012TP of wins

 
khorosh:

Yes, this is from my practical experience. You can see the results of the test here .

It would be interesting to look at equity without reinvestment, on a constant deposit.

 
How about this approach? (Link to article http://strategy.opentraders.ru/250.html)
To begin with some characteristics of the strategy is necessary to approximate the conditions for participation in GOSLOTO.
  • the betting amount is $1;

  • participation costs per year ~ $100 (2 times a week for $1);

  • a guaranteed return (see below) of at least 50% of costs;

  • odds of taking the jackpot of at least $670,000 in each "draw" should leave a minimum of 1 in 8,145,060 (we'll have a much better chance).

Now we know how to achieve a big win, how to get intermediate prizes, we know the criteria to focus on when creating a lottery strategy. All that remains is to put it all together and finally formulate the first version of the rules:
  1. Determine at random the direction of the future trade, open in the chosen direction on EURUSD.

  2. Set SL=50, TP=50 (in pips) so that 50 pips of price movement = $1

  3. If win, then set aside 8.36%* of the current amount, and spend the rest on the next transaction in series, proportionally increasing the lot.

  4. If losing start from the first point.

  5. Play in this manner, until 22* steps in a row are completed

  6. Make sure to open no more than, but not less than two series every week.
 
ironfelx:

That is, to add all sorts of filters - indicators, price action, TA, FA and reduce it to, say, this distribution?

00000001 - 3
0000001 - 20
000001 - 80
00001 - 150
0001 - 1265
001 - 2812 times(third time after SL was TP )
01 - 6164 times (for the second time after SL it was TP)


1265-(150+80+20+3=253) = +1012TP of wins.

I didn't do distributions, I estimated results by test. I agree with what you have listed to improve the signal quality. I have not used FA in my EA. I have used only fractals from different TFs and scales. I have used mostly candlestick parameters of different TFs.

Reason: