AMD or Intel as well as the memory brand - page 39

 

CPU: Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (2000 MHz), cache 2x512 KB L2 (Socket 939) RAM: 4*512MB PC3200

Script test 90 sec, optimization 318 sec, ticks 1:09:06

If I place terminal in RAM, results will be slightly different )

Script test 86s, optimization 297s, ticks 49:01
 
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Funny :)

Download the latest InfInstaller for 9xx,3,4 Intel chipset and make sure (but you'll have to dig around in inf files), it's a bit unclear what north bridge they will be compatible with and what will be the name of the stones themselves (i3/i4). (So they'll remove the north bridge from the stone, they will...)

Exactly, smiled, especially the last sentence. Not only will they not remove anything, they will also add integrated graphics.

Why to invent when regularly occurring "leaks" outline very clearly all perspectives of Nehalem's development?

And why to spy on inf-files? There is nothing "criminal" about Nehalem LGA775 release. The statements are not unfounded - I've downloaded and checked them. If suddenly you think that presence of NehalMEX.inf file says about allegedly forthcoming Nehalem LGA775 release - that's an obvious misconception.

Or better yet, tell me exactly which files (or even lines in them) made you come up with such fantastic ideas - let it make more than just me smile.

2 All - sorry for the off-topic. I'm no expert in trading or mathematics, but I'm good with the matchbook. And technically illiterate statements, and even more so fiction like the one described above, leads to a certain loss of self-control ...

 

Entered the results of TorBar and Imp120 in the table.

 

How can we arrange for a link to the tests and report form to be displayed at all times? It is difficult for those wishing to join the test to hunt through the whole branch. And the requirements/explanations for the test were then added. Maybe on people.ru to make a page? Or just upload an archive with tests and description on file sharing?

Any suggestions?

 

Mathemat, add mine as well:

script:

Optimisation 2:54.

My processor:

Memory:

Had a closer look at the table. There are actually some oddities. And not only with four2one, but also with begemot61.

Both are quite predictable results when running a script - P4 is very much behind any modern CPU in efficiency, Opteron is on the level of Core 2, Xeon is slightly better than Core 2.

But when optimizing, "miracles" begin - Athlon 64 X2 5050e is 2.3 times faster than Athlon 64 X2 3800+ with only 1.3 times the frequency difference. The Pentium 4 670 also becomes one of the fastest processors. The Opteron 2439 SE beats the much higher frequency Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.72 GHz, and the Xeon even gets out of 100 seconds...

I'm guessing there's a methodological error somewhere. The fundamental difference between the script and the Expert Advisor is that the latter depends not only on history of quotes but also on properties of the trading account. Therefore, in order to verify the correctness of the results of speed measurements it is highly recommended to review the results of the tester run (at arbitrarily selected parameters of the Expert Advisor) - tab "report". And compare it with "slower" systems.

 

A description of the optimisation test.

We take the Moving Average Expert Advisor from the standard delivery of MT. Save the existing EURUSD1 history by exporting it. Increment the history on the minutes. Make sure that the history covers the testing period! Make sure that there are no files in the tester folder \tester\history. If there are - delete them! Then you set these parameters in the tester:

Parameters in the window below can be loaded from t.set file or set manually.

Remove genetic algorithm flag!!! It is clear why.


That's it. The report will be the first screen with the optimization time.


Test description on the script.

Everything is simple - just run the script and take a screenshot of the alert window.


Necessary information about the computer.

Two screenshots of CPU-Z utility tabs: CPU and RAM.

Everest report is also welcome. Of course, as an attached file.


Archive contents: optimization setup file t.set, script file, test description file, latest CPU-Z version. I've embedded the archive to this address http://files.mail.ru/Z5PWGJ. Now you can just give a link to it.

Files:
amd_vs_intel.rar  2427 kb
 

OK, you can't edit the table on page 28 now, three days have passed. OK, moving it here, adding the Docent results:

Nick Stone RAM script (ff) Expert (ff)

joo

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (2000 MHz), cache 2x512 KB L2

DDR2 PC-5360 2GB

82.07*2(?)=164.14

310*2=620

keekkenen notebook core 2 duo 1800 MHz, cache 1 MB (?) L2 2 Gb (DDR2-667) 75.77*1.8=136.39

Mathemat

Core 2 Duo E7200@2.53, cache 3 MB L2

4GB RAM PC-6400

46.27*2.53=117.06

213*2.53=538.89

Svinozavr

Celeron 900 @ 2.20 GHz, cache 1 MB L2

DDR2 PC-6400 2GB

52.18*2.2=114.8

206*2.2=453.2

benik

Celeron 325 @ 2.53 GHz, cache 256 K L2

DDR2 PC-6400 1GB

103.3*2.53=261.35

438*2.53=1108.14

begemot61

Pentium 4 670 @ 3.8 GHz, cache 2 MB L2

DDR2 PC-4266 2GB

78.57*3.8=298.57

169*3.8=642.2

kombat Celeron 430 1.8ghts, cache 0.5 MB L2 DDR2 PC-5333 2GB 68.53*1.8=123.354

BLACK_BOX

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.2 GHz, cache 2x512 KB L2

DDR1 PC-3200 (?) 3 GB

77.84*2.2=171.25


forex-k

Core 2 Duo Q8200 @ 2.33 GHz, cache 2x2 MB L2

RAM 4 GB PC-6400

46.84*2.33=109.14

189*2.33=440.37

Belford

Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.72 GHz, cache 3x512 KB L2 + 6 MB L3

RAM ? 37.91*3.72=141.03 113*3.72=420.36

four2one

Athlon 64 X2 5050e @ 2.6 GHz, cache 2x512 KB L2

RAM 4 (8) GB PC-5970

60*2.6=156.0

134*2.6=348.4

skv. Athlon 64 X2 4000+ @ 2.1 GHz, cache 2x512 KB L2 DDR2 PC-5625 2GB 80.17*2.1=168.36
lea Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @ 3.01 GHz, cache 2x1 MB L2 RAM 3 GB PC-6030 52.85*3.01=159.08
kombat Pentium Dual CPU E2180 @ 2 GHz, cache 1 MB L2 RAM 2 GB 55.94*2.0=111.88

begemot61

6-Core Opteron 2439 SE @ 2.8 GHz, cache 6x512 KB L2 + 6 MB L3

DDR2 4 GB PC-5333

42.33*2.8=118.52

95*2.8=266

begemot61

Xeon W5590 @ 3.47 GHz, cache 4x256 KB L2 + 8 MB L3

DDR3 PC-10670 12GB

27,53*3,47=95.53

62*3.47=215.14

Dmido

Pentium 4 @ 3 GHz, cache 512 KB L2

DDR1 PC-3200 1.15 GB

64.49*3=193.47

315*3 = 945

TorBar

Intel Celeron 331 @ 2.66 GHz, cache 256 KB L2

DDR1 (PC-3200) 1.5GB

105.49*2.66=280.60

386*2.66=1026.76

imp120

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2 GHz, cache 2x512 KB L2

DDR1(?) PC-3200 2 GB

90*2.0=180

318*2.0=636

Docent

Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 3 GHz, cache 4 MB L2

DDR2 PC-6864 2 GB

40.35*3.0=121.05

174*3.0=522

imp120

Mobile Core 2 Duo P8600 @ 2.4 GHz, cache 3 MB L2

DDR2 4GB PC-6400

44.99*2.4=107.98

201*2.4=482.4

Vinin

Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00 GHz, cache 6 MB L2

DDR2 4GB PC-6400

36.99*3.0=110.97

152*3.0=456

 
Mathemat >> :

OK, you can't edit the table on page 28 now, three days have passed. OK, move it here, adding Docent's results:

You have an error in your own optimization time of 213*2.53=538.89.

Your run time was 2:49, i.e. 169 sec, not 213. Where did the 213 come from?

 
Docent >> :

Mathemat, add mine as well:

script:

Optimisation 2:54.

My processor:

Memory:

Had a closer look at the table. There are actually some oddities. And not only with four2one, but also with begemot61.

Both are quite predictable results when running a script - P4 is very much behind any modern CPU in efficiency, Opteron is on the level of Core 2, Xeon is slightly better than Core 2.

But when optimizing, "miracles" begin - Athlon 64 X2 5050e is 2.3 times faster than Athlon 64 X2 3800+ with a frequency difference of only 1.3 times. The Pentium 4 670 also becomes one of the fastest processors. The Opteron 2439 SE beats the much higher frequency Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.72 GHz, and the Xeon even gets out of 100 seconds...

I'm guessing there's a methodological error somewhere. The fundamental difference between the script and the Expert Advisor is that the latter depends not only on history of quotes but also on properties of the trading account. Therefore, in order to verify the correctness of the results of speed measurements it is highly recommended to review the results of the tester run (at arbitrarily selected parameters of the Expert Advisor) - tab "report". And compare it to "slower" systems.

I had my doubts too. With the script, everything seems to be correct. What about the EA? Maybe we should run it once with default settings before optimization. At the beginning of trades it will be clear that the history is correct. Well, according to the time of losing or the number of deals, it will work correctly and the quotes history is adequate.

 
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I had my doubts too. With the script, everything seems to be correct. What about the EA? Maybe we should run it once with default settings before optimization. At the beginning of trades it will be clear that the history is correct. Well, according to the sinking time or amount of trades, the trading robot works correctly and the quotes history is adequate.

Quotes may be quite adequate, while properties of a trading account may be different to such an extent that it will affect trades. Therefore it would be desirable to look (at arbitrary, but published by you settings) on "report" tab of tester, in test mode, but not optimization.

Reason: