Interesting and Humour - page 3391

[pavlick_]

По миграции. У нас обстановка лучше чем у вас. Положительное сальдо, все такое.

You should at least look at some figures. The Russian Federation has had a positive migration balance throughout the post-Soviet period (more people enter than leave every year), and for the last 3 years there has been a positive natural increase as well. Any statements about some kind of flight from here are simply ridiculous.

But somehow, among my close acquaintances there are about ten people who left for a better life. Poland, Germany, Sweden, America, Australia, the Czech Republic. Not a single one to Russia, although there is one close by. I know Russians who have moved to Belarus.

All with higher education, all highly qualified specialists in their fields.

Well, the guys could well overestimate themselves, couldn't they? Probably cleaning toilets somewhere nowadays.

There is a problem, I admit. It has to do with the fact that we're all trying to fit into the global system, open markets, WTO and all that. There is no incentive to locate high-tech production inside. We need to make it so that "it is 6-7 times more profitable to drive a Lada than a Toyota". Against the backdrop of all these events, maybe we will get smarter.

[Alexandr Saprykin]

[Alexandr Saprykin]

https://ria.ru/culture/20161106/1480734095.html

Foreign actors/actresses seem to have a fashionable way of acquiring Russian citizenship.

So much for the natural population inflow in Russia.

[Alexandr Saprykin]

https://ria.ru/spravka/20161103/1480639633.html

[Dmitry Fedoseev]

Сигал говорит, что ему нравится богатая российская культура и что хотел бы проводить в России несколько месяцев в году.

A new fashion trend is being observed. It has become fashionable to get citizenship in preferred holiday destinations

[pavlick_]

I see that for some there is nothing but the West. Well, let's have a look. I have not been lazy and collected migration statistics for the US and EU countries for 2015. The original source is here http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b16_107/Main.htm.

Country	Number of those who arrived in Russia, persons	Number of departures from Russia, people	Migration increase, pers.
USA	1084	1610	-526
Australia	122	187	-65
Belgium	136	97	39
Bulgaria	392	297	95
United Kingdom	273	429	-156
Hungary	58	55	3
Germany	3976	4531	-555
Greece	557	291	266
Denmark	21	73	-52
Ireland	26	25	1
Spain	279	411	-132
Italy	425	534	-109
Cyprus	118	72	46
Latvia	1533	946	587
Lithuania	790	604	186
Luxembourg	-	-	-
Malta	10	24	-14
Netherlands	106	158	-52
Poland	194	135	59
Portugal	45	65	-20
Romania	44	38	6
Slovakia	27	42	-15
Slovenia	19	41	-22
Finland	401	664	-263
France	360	398	-38
Croatia	46	39	7
Czech Republic	-	-	-
Sweden	116	161	-45
Estonia	1283	1000	283
TOTAL	12441	12927	-486

Migration growth for all countries (not just EU and US) = 245384 people.

Gentlemen, -486 people gives you grounds to make assumptions about some kind of leakage? That's ridiculous compared to 245,000 people.

[Дмитрий]

Pavlik, at least you shit in the other threads once in a while - you're really blowing your cover

[Dmitry Fedoseev]

pavlick_:

I see that for some there is nothing but the West. Well, let's have a look. I have not been lazy and collected migration statistics for the US and EU countries for 2015. The original source is here http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b16_107/Main.htm.

Gentlemen, -486 people gives you grounds to make assumptions about some leakage? It's ridiculous against the background of 245 thousand people.

Ridiculous, in a forum where it is customary to think with one's head to draw such conclusions. It's the litres that count, isn't it? And what and where doesn't matter? Outflows to the U.S., Britain, Germany. The inflow from Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Greece. Guess who is leaving and who is coming.

[Dmitry Fedoseev]

Trying to understand the mentality of Westphobes: USphobes, EUphobes. What's the point? The only thing I can think of is denial out of powerlessness of unattainability? Like Aesop's fable "The Fox and the Grapes".

[pavlick_]

Dmitry Fedoseev:

Ridiculous, in a forum where it is customary to think with your head to draw such conclusions. It's the litres that count, isn't it? And what and where doesn't matter? Outflows to the US, the UK, Germany. The inflow from Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Greece. Guess who is leaving and who is coming.

The EU countries are in the Schengen zone, a comrade from Lithuania can safely go wherever he wants, but he goes to Russia for some reason. For the same USA, the figures are so paltry (about 600 people), that only you, probably, can draw any conclusions on their basis (against the background of 245 thousand people with a positive migration balance).