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poruchik , I know what "ExtDeltaGartley=0.09" is . As far as I know, this paramater controls the max deviation from the ideal fibos.
In zup130 there's also ExtDeltaStrongGartley=0.07.
What is the the difference of this parameter from ExtDeltaGartley?
And if we change the value of varStrongPatterns from 1 to 0, does the indicator finds less but more accurate patterns?
ExtDeltaGartley - the admission on a price deviation for search of patterns
by default 9% - 0.09
ExtDeltaStrongGartley - the admission on a price deviation for search exact patterns
varStrongPatterns - options of algorithm of search of exact patterns
= 0 search of exact five-dot patterns in algorithm, existing to 122 versions inclusive. The pattern was considered found if retresment of XD-XB-AC-BD got to borders admission.
= 1 by search of patterns in limits of the admission have to to get only XB-AC-BD retresment.
Retresment of XD in this case is considered help, participates only for calculation of border of development of a point of the D pattern
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In this case, I'll choose varStrongPatterns=0 since it also checks XD whether it's in the ExtDeltaStrongGartley limits or not.
poruchik, from your explanation, what I've understood is,
ExtDeltaStrongGartley controls the deviation of fibos not ExtDeltaGartley.
I mean if we set ExtDeltaStrongGartley=0.05 & varStrongPatterns=1 then XD-XB-AC-BD fibo values should be within the range - %5 < ideal fibo < + %5. Am i right?
For example, for bullish gartley , XB should be 0.618 of XA
if we set ExtDeltaStrongGartley=0.05 then XB should be in the range of 0.5871 < 0.618 < 0.6489 (retracement of XA)
So,
if ExtDeltaStrongGartley controls the price deviation of gartley, crab, bat & butterfly what exactly then ExtDeltaGartley parameter controls?
Thanks in advance.
Just search 27 ZUP built five-point patterns.
Here is a complete list and their order. In that order, are searched so-called "fuzzy" patterns.
1. Gartley
2. Bat
3. A Alternate Shark
4. A Nen STAR
5. Butterfly
6. Crab
7. A Shark
8. A Cypher
9. A Butterfly
10. A Crab
11. Shark
12. Cypher
13. A Gartley
14. A Bat
15. Alternate Shark
16. Nen STAR
17. Alternate Bat
18. Deep Crab
19. Black swan
20. max Bat
21. max Gartley
22. max Butterfly
23. TOTAL 1
24. TOTAL 2
25. TOTAL 3
26. TOTAL 4
27. TOTAL
The search algorithm "fuzzy" patterns. Constructed zigzag. Next, in order from right to left are checked five consecutive extrema zigzag on corresponds to some of the patterns. If the first five extrema pattern is not established, we move to the left and one extremum checked five extrema.
Once a pattern is found, the ZigZag stops further search patterns. Found pattern is displayed on the chart. This algorithm is applied to all built-in ZUP zigzags. Thus searches for "fuzzy" patterns in the current ZigZag.
But there are also scanners patterns. Scanners are used not all built zigzags. Scanners searched patterns on more than one zigzag, and in greater numbers. Set some boundary parameters zigzag. Within these boundaries, the specified settings are moving step zigzag. For each new group of settings for ZigZag. And the new ZigZag searched patterns.
General pattern search algorithm is as follows.
First the search for "exact" patterns. Variants search algorithm "exact" two patterns.
The first option. It searches for patterns in which all four retracement XB-AC-BD-XD coincide with the set.
The second option. It searches for patterns in which only three retracements XB-AC-BD coincide with the set.
Why two options, explain later. Options "accurate" pattern 784. That is incorporated into the base 784 "accurate" pattern. "
"Exact" patterns laid only from Gartley (1.) To the Deep Crab (18.)
For Black swan and patterns such as TOTAL "accurate" pattern no.
Next on the other algorithm (see above) is made for "fuzzy" patterns.
Next in order are looking for the following patterns:
Dragon, user patterns, if specified, potential retracement levels XD potential "exact" patterns
The 4-Point Continuation Pattern, Pattern 5-0, and finally, AB = CD.
The algorithm is given here in order to better understand the process of searching for patterns.
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The difference between "exact" patterns from the "spread" is the following.
Let's consider an example of a pattern Crab.
Some retracements in the crab may have different values.
For example, the retracement XB can be set in the range of 0.382 to 0.618.
For "fuzzy" patterns pattern is found when any of the four retracement XB-AC-BD-XD can range from a smaller to a larger retracement values. For example, 0.382 <= XB <= 0.618 a tolerance.
And for the "exact" patterns retracements can only take specific values.
For the first option, all four search retracement XB-AC-BD-XD should be given a single number.
For the second search option three retracements XB-AC-BD defined.
For the Crab for the second search option is the following number of options patterns:
Crab Ratios
retXB/retAC/retBD
0.382/0.382/1.618
0.382/0.382/2.000
0.382/0.382/2.240
0.382/0.382/2.618
0.382/0.382/3.140
0.382/0.382/3.618
0.382/0.447/1.618
0.382/0.447/2.000
0.382/0.447/2.240
0.382/0.447/2.618
0.382/0.447/3.140
0.382/0.447/3.618
0.382/0.500/1.618
0.382/0.500/2.000
0.382/0.500/2.240
0.382/0.500/2.618
0.382/0.500/3.140
0.382/0.500/3.618
0.382/0.618/1.618
0.382/0.618/2.000
0.382/0.618/2.240
0.382/0.618/2.618
0.382/0.618/3.140
0.382/0.618/3.618
0.382/0.707/1.618
0.382/0.707/2.000
0.382/0.707/2.240
0.382/0.707/2.618
0.382/0.707/3.140
0.382/0.707/3.618
0.382/0.786/1.618
0.382/0.786/2.000
0.382/0.786/2.240
0.382/0.786/2.618
0.382/0.786/3.140
0.382/0.786/3.618
0.382/0.886/1.618
0.382/0.886/2.000
0.382/0.886/2.240
0.382/0.886/2.618
0.382/0.886/3.140
0.382/0.886/3.618
0.447/0.382/1.618
0.447/0.382/2.000
0.447/0.382/2.240
0.447/0.382/2.618
0.447/0.382/3.140
0.447/0.382/3.618
0.447/0.447/1.618
0.447/0.447/2.000
0.447/0.447/2.240
0.447/0.707/2.240
0.500/0.382/3.618
0.500/0.447/3.618
0.500/0.500/3.618
0.500/0.618/3.618
0.500/0.707/3.618
0.500/0.786/3.140
0.500/0.786/3.618
0.500/0.886/3.141
0.500/0.886/3.618
0.618/0.382/3.618
0.618/0.447/3.618
0.618/0.500/3.140
0.618/0.707/3.140
0.618/0.707/3.618
0.618/0.786/2.618
0.618/0.786/3.140
0.618/0.786/3.618
0.618/0.886/2.240
0.618/0.886/2.618
0.618/0.886/3.140
0.886/0.382/2.618
0.886/0.382/3.140
0.886/0.382/3.618
0.886/0.447/2.240
0.886/0.447/2.618
0.886/0.447/3.140
Calculated for all options, "exact" Crab retracement values XD based on the given values retracement XB-AC-BD
Crab Ratios
retXB / retAC / retBD retXD design
0.382/0.382/1.618 0,472
0.382/0.382/2.000 0,528
0.382/0.382/2.240 0,563
0.382/0.382/2.618 0,618
0.382/0.382/3.140 0,694
0.382/0.382/3.618 0,764
0.382/0.447/1.618 0,488
0.382/0.447/2.000 0,553
0.382/0.447/2.240 0,594
0.382/0.447/2.618 0,658
0.382/0.447/3.140 0,747
0.382/0.447/3.618 0,829
0.382/0.500/1.618 0,5
0.382/0.500/2.000 0,573
0.382/0.500/2.240 0,619
0.382/0.500/2.618 0,691
0.382/0.500/3.140 0,791
0.382/0.500/3.618 0,882
0.382/0.618/1.618 0,528
0.382/0.618/2.000 0,618
0.382/0.618/2.240 0,675
0.382/0.618/2.618 0,764
0.382/0.618/3.140 0,887
0.382/0.618/3.618 1
0.382/0.707/1.618 0,549
0.382/0.707/2.000 0,652
0.382/0.707/2.240 0,717
0.382/0.707/2.618 0,819
0.382/0.707/3.140 0,96
0.382/0.707/3.618 1,089
0.382/0.786/1.618 0,568
0.382/0.786/2.000 0,682
0.382/0.786/2.240 0,754
0.382/0.786/2.618 0,868
0.382/0.786/3.140 1,025
0.382/0.786/3.618 1,168
0.382/0.886/1.618 0,591
0.382/0.886/2.000 0,72
0.382/0.886/2.240 0,802
0.382/0.886/2.618 0,93
0.382/0.886/3.140 1,106
0.382/0.886/3.618 1,268
0.447/0.382/1.618 0,553
0.447/0.382/2.000 0,618
0.447/0.382/2.240 0,659
0.447/0.382/2.618 0,723
0.447/0.382/3.140 0,812
0.447/0.382/3.618 0,894
0.447/0.447/1.618 0,57
0.447/0.447/2.000 0,647
0.447/0.447/2.240 0,695
0.447/0.707/2.240 0,958
0.500/0.382/3.618 1
0.500/0.447/3.618 1,085
0.500/0.500/3.618 1,155
0.500/0.618/3.618 1,309
0.500/0.707/3.618 1,425
0.500/0.786/3.140 1,341
0.500/0.786/3.618 1,529
0.500/0.886/3.140 1,448
0.500/0.886/3.618 1,66
0.618/0.382/3.618 1,236
0.618/0.447/3.618 1,341
0.618/0.500/3.140 1,279
0.618/0.707/3.140 1,553
0.618/0.707/3.618 1,762
0.618/0.786/2.618 1,404
0.618/0.786/3.140 1,658
0.618/0.786/3.618 1,89
0.618/0.886/2.240 1,297
0.618/0.886/2.618 1,504
0.618/0.886/3.140 1,79
0.886/0.382/2.618 1,434
0.886/0.382/3.140 1,61
0.886/0.382/3.618 1,434
0.886/0.447/2.240 1,377
0.886/0.447/2.618 1,527
0.886/0.447/3.140 1,734
XD retracement for the Crab should not exceed 1.618.
Estimated value is often very different from 1.618.
Therefore, to find the first option of "exact" patterns of the entire list of "exact" Crabs can be found no more than three to five patterns. Depending on the value of tolerance.
For the second search option can be found all of the above patterns listed below.
But. A layout of the pattern will be different. Will be displayed on the chart pattern, which has three retracements XB-AC-BD will coincide with one of the options from the above table. XD And for retracement level will be displayed for reference XD = 1.618 * XA or XD = 1.618 * XC for sharks and shark-like patterns, such as anti patterns.
This corresponds to the one offered by Scott Carney. In the descriptions of patterns it is often explicitly stated the following.
Although retracement XD for each of the patterns known to accurately otredeleniya point level D must use the exact options patterns AB = CD, 1.272 * AB = CD, 1.618 * AB = CD and so on. These levels often do not coincide with the level obtained in the calculation of the level of point D through retracement XD. And this construction is made of patterns in his (Scott Carney) program harmonic trader.
Hi guys how do I identify point X on the chart?
Hi poruchick, quick question.
When i use a ZUP there is difference between versions that don't show the same pattern..
So what we should do? We have to use a several different zup versions on the same chart or we have only to choose one, the latest one?
Sorry to botther you and Thanks for your work !