ASCTrend system - page 79

etrader58
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etrader58  
newdigital:
I updated AsctrendBuySellExpert EA: two indicators were added to filter the asctrend signals. Just slightly filtered. See this post https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/173249/page51 for next AsctrendBuySellExpert_v1.3 version.

many thanks for this newdigital

coachdeb
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coachdeb  

Comparison of AbleSys' eASCTrend and this thread's indicators

Hi All,

I've been following your thread now for about a month and I decided there's only one way to see how the MT4 indicators compare to the eASCTrend software commercially available from AbleSys: buy the 1-month trial and compare them side-by-side..so I did. I've downloaded all the indicators, templates, images, zip files, and thread comments - at least I think I have them all. I also have a 1-month trial from AbleSys which expires shortly.

I'm still in the process of comparing but I need your help: I've downloaded so many indicators that I have no clue which is the latest set. Can someone help me with a list of indicators that match the AbleSys product? I'm talking AbleSys only. There seems to be a ton of other indicators that have been placed in this thread that aren't similar in any way to the AbleSys product so that's a major confusing and time-taking issue for me. [Obviousy, pivots, S/R, fibs, etc are always helpful when making trading decisions, but in this case, they are a huge distraction while comparing only the basic indicators.]

I've included a screen shot of the actual AbleSys software running and I've added an explanation of how to use the product to help.

I have to say that eASCTrend indicators from AbleSys are pretty awesome, although their charting package sucks. The hefty price tag makes it unatainable by me so I'm shooting for the next best thing...these indicators.

I only have a a little over a week left to evaluate it (the 1-month trial expirex then) so HURRY! If anybody has any questions, I'll be happy to answer what I can and post images if it helps. I'm subscribed to the thread so I won't miss a thing.

Thanks!

Coach

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coachdeb
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coachdeb  

More AbleSys v MT4 ASCTrend

I placed the PriceChannel indicators (PriceChannel_Stop_v1.2.mq4 and PriceChannel_Signal_v1.mq4) on my MT4 charts and compared them with AbleSys's eASCTrend charts. You see the result below. Unfortunately, it would seem that the smaller magenta and blue dots in the PriceChannel_xxx indicators are somehow tying in to the candle colors. This is not correct per AbleSys. I discussed the differences, which are very significant, in the image.

When I look over the AbleSys chart, the areas for NOT TRADING stand out so clearly. Only when all the colors align do we take a trade. The flat spots are are jumbled up with mismatched colors, suggesting that this is a non-trending area and to stay out.

Again, I still have the software and would love for us to get these indicators right. Unfortunately, I know nothing of the MT4 language so can't help that way. The best I can do is test what you great guys have come up with... please tell me what needs testing and I'll keep posting.

11 days and counting to trial expiration,

Coach

coachdeb
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coachdeb  

AbleSys trade example

I hope this helps.

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Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

Hi coachdeb,

No need to compare AbleSys's eASCTrend and MT4 Asctrend. First one is software. Second one is trading system (many trading systems with one approach).

AbleSys's eASCTrend:

- it is software. it is not MT4.

- we should not have any idea which indicators are used in ths software. It is "back box".

- system is not difficult: it is simple system.

- we may backtest all the indicators on the chart and optimize the settings. We can not backtest 4 or 5 indicators on the chart for MT4 by one click. It is very good with this siofware and we do not have it in MT4.

As I said in the beginning of this thread so some people wanted to create the same as in AbleSys's eASCTrend software. It was many many year ago. It was for MT3. They failed as AbleSys's eASCTrend is presenting indicators as "black box" and we should never know why we have the dot on the chart. AbleSys's eASCTrend are not telling us about it. Just a dot. For buy or sell. Which dot? Why? What is this dot? MA crossing? Some other indicators crossing? Nobody know. "Black box".

So, some people wanted to create the same for MT4. They started and failed. Then some Russians continued this developent started by Americans. And as a results we got MT3/MT4 ASctrend system. If you read the whole thread so you may read some my posts in the beinning of the thread as a lyrics: "once upon a time ...". So, I described about it. MT4 ASCTrend is completely different. It is completely and absolutelty different system.

But MT4 Asctrend is using the same approach with AbleSys's eASCTrend:

- in Asctrend (both AbleSys's eASCTrend and MT4 ASctrend) we open the order when the trend is already established to get some pips from big trend. We open the order in the end or in the middle of the trend.

- we are using re-entry in both system;

- we are using dot indicators (Asctrend indicators) as signal indcators to open the orders (in AbleSys's eASCTrend and MT4 as well).

- we are using NRTR indicators to estimate the trend reversal (horizontal dots in AbleSys's eASCTrend and in MT4 ). Those indicators are based on WPR or ATR standard indicators. Nothing new in it.

- dots are based on MA crossing. That is why we must optimize the settings of your chart very often in AbleSys's eASCTrend software. Just 2 MA crossing.

- AbleSys's eASCTrend is using some filter on separated chart. Filter chart. MT4 Asctrend is using NRTR_line indicator.

If you have AbleSys's eASCTrend software so you understand all that I posted above.

If you want to compare so just take some indicators in the beginning of this thread. Because later on we changed the whole system completely (thanks to Beluck and Igorad).

Besides, there is very good and famous Asctrend evaluation made by Igorad for AbleSys's eASCTrend software, MetaStock and MT4 Asctrend as well. It was posted in this thread. In you read this evakluation so you understand that it is nothing magical in this Asctrend: MA crossing filtered by WPR and ATR nduicators an some others. That is all.

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Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

If you want to compare so the most compatible is LabTrend by Igorad. those indicators were posted on this thread as well.

But as you know AbleSys's eASCTrend software was designed mainly for W1, and D1 timeframe. I have no idea how yu are using M5 timeframe as this AbleSys's eASCTrend software was not created for this software. You can of course, but I'm affraid that it will not be profitable.

D1 and W1. may be H4 as well. Any other timeframes will not be profitable at all.

But as I said, MT4 Asctrend and AbleSys's eASCTrend software are completely and absolutely different tools/indicators/software and everything.

Just approach is the same and I explained it on the post above.

Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

AbleSys's eASCTrend software was evaluated many times on many Metatrader forums during the many years and it was stated that nothing magical in this siftware: just MA crossing filtered some WPR, ATR and so on.

Can you imagine how many false signals you will have using MA crossing system on M5 timeframe? A lot. You will have to optimize the settinmgs of your chart every day!

Now look at LabTrend by Igorad (indicators were posted on this tread somewhere). It is one of the system. One of MT4 asctrend. Same AUDJPY, M5 timeframe.

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Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

Now look at Ichimoku-Asctrend for M30 timeframe and you will understand: our MT4 asctrend is diferent from any other software and our MT4 versions are much more better than any other software!

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Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

It is the other version of our MT4 Asctrend for M5 timeframe. It was posted on this thread as well.

Did you see the differencies?

Our M5 Asctrend is very simple system and we are taking the decision for buy/sell orders based on the price movement and understanding the price movement.

In AbleSys's eASCTrend software you will take decision for buy/sell because of the dots: some unknown dots will tell you to open buy or sell order with your own money.

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Sergey Golubev
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Sergey Golubev  

And look at this Asctrend vesion for M1 timeframe. It was posted on this thread as well.

it is much better than any AbleSys's.

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