THE 2007 TRADING CHAMPIONSHIP! - page 3

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I think an EA should be able to take any number of orders with any number of lots. I think the length of the Championship should be increased and those who lose cleanly should be excluded. There are EAs that take more than 3 orders at once and not necessarily the maximum but just because they buy a bit, i.e. increase the position depending on the conditions.
 
A leverage of 1:20 (Better wrote it correctly on the championship website) and a margin call level of 50% :)
And you can remove the rest of the restrictions...
 
HIDDEN:
Renat:
At this Championship, we practically did not assess the trading efficiency of the experts at the entry check, but only checked if they met the formal requirements. In the next competition, we will focus on the preliminary estimate of trading efficiency (the conditions will be described in detail in the rules at the appropriate time) and weed out those Expert Advisors that are visibly weak or stupid.

We are not going to accept blatantly unsuccessful EAs.

How can the weakness of an EA be determined?
Weakness is its serious drain/drawdown on a test period or serious errors in logic. We will publish detailed conditions.

Before the start of the Championship this year we could hardly manage to check all the Expert Advisors, because they had to be updated every hour till the last days of the competition. The next time we will strongly stop accepting changes in a week before the beginning of the Championship and perform serious checks.
 
Renat:
Gentlemen, you forget that by putting up a permanent lot, you completely kill the logic of the experts. Restrictions should be such as not to break EAs.

There is no way we are going to have a competition of neutered EAs.
No way logic breaks down. Experts should trade based on the analysis, not on the chance of some misfortune. Or the drawdown should be limited below 70% of the deposit. Then there will be nothing for thrill seekers.

Overall, this is a perversion, not a championship.

If an EA is trading profitably with a fixed lot any fool will be able to attach MM to it.
 
A large initial deposit is not right, there is an opportunity for a lot of risk. Many experts were designed to do just that (the famous sashken expert). An expert should painstakingly earn every quid, rather than acting on the principle of luck or bad luck.
 
Yurixx:
HIDDEN wrote (a):

The lot is constant.


I support this, but it is not enough. You can open 20 orders with a fixed lot.
Therefore fixed Lots=1 and no more than one open order in one direction.
So locking is allowed but pyramid is not.

I would add no more than 10-30% of the deposit, even if it is a constant lot.


Making a constant lot more or less than 1 makes no sense. After all, the point is not in its size, but in the fact that everyone plays in the same conditions and the competition was in the efficiency of experts, but not in aggressiveness and adventurism. Therefore 1 lot with an initial deposit of 10000 will automatically limit the % of the deposit that is used to open a position.

But the % on margin call really can be raised. There are brokers who use 1:100 leverage as a limit value below which this margin call is triggered. In our measurement system it corresponds to 100%.

if my Expert Advisor is multi-currency, i can exceed 30% or 50% of my deposit by opening on 5-10 currency pairs.
i would like to get the terms not limiting the number of lots of currency pairs or other restrictions
some of which do not respect MM

i would like to get the terms under which MM is kept

the number of pairs and instruments ALL of which uses a server to trade
does not anyone trade with hands zotot?

i.e. to bring MTS trading closer to the risks of manual trading

i believe that the finish line will be chosen not by reckless technologies like half of the deposit - just in case i get lucky!
but reasonable and sensible.

lot size is not more than or fixed will reject some experts whose strategy may be hidden in the management of MM
hedging, etc.
 
Executer писал (а):

p.s. After the end of the Championship I couldn't resist the desire to test my main Expert Advisor from 10.01 to 12.25 with the parameters set by the Championship. I set 5 lots opening for the position and as a result of testing I got the profit by 5k more than the Rich EA :) (but this is just a talk about aggressive reinvestments, I would not allow myself that in real trading)

My Expert Advisor is also in the winners according to my brokerage company, but it is clear that it is weak, since it is in deficit in the Championship.
As a matter of fact I agree with the drawdown limit but I do not agree with three orders. If there is a limit in lots and value of minimum lot - it is enough not to overload the server with dozens of orders. In real trading conditions not a single brokerage company has such a strict limit on the number of orders.
 
rsi писал (а):
Executer wrote (a):

p.s. After the end of the Championship I couldn't resist the desire to test my main Expert Advisor from 10.01 to 12.25 with the parameters set by the Championship. I set 5 lots opening for the position and as a result of testing I got the profit by 5k more than the Rich EA :) (If I had tested it I would have got more profit, but I would have lost practically nothing.

My DC's quote expert is also in the winners, but clearly he is weak, since he ended up in the minuses at the championship.
As a matter of fact: i agree with the drawdown restriction, but i disagree with three orders. If there is a limit in lots and value of minimum lot - it is enough not to overload the server with dozens of orders. In terms of real trading, in my opinion, no brokerage company has such a strict limit on the number of orders.

Some of them limit the number of orders to no more than 100

agree
Limitation in MM is the most effective!
 
YuraZ писал (а):
rsi wrote (a):
Executer wrote (a):

p.s. After the end of the Championship I couldn't resist the desire to test my main Expert Advisor from 10.01 to 12.25 with the parameters set by the Championship. I set 5 lots opening for the position and as a result of testing I got the profit by 5k more than the Rich EA :) (If I had tested it I would have earned more than I did in the real trading, but I would not have allowed myself that.

My DC's quote expert is also in the winners, but clearly he's weak since he ended up in the minus side of the championship.
As a matter of fact: I agree with the drawdown restriction, but I disagree with the three order limit. If there is a limit in lots and value of minimum lot - it is enough not to overload the server with dozens of orders. In real trading conditions not a single brokerage company has such a strict limit on the number of orders.

Some of them limit the number of orders to no more than 100

Well, not by three!
 
It would be useful to write an article on the results of the championship, with an overview of programmatic and strategic findings, as well as errors, preferably from a good specialist, we would have learned from, and maybe we would have made fewer mistakes and asked simple questions.
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