Service Work: Towards re-shaping the Top Developers towards professionalism - page 8

 
sanyooooook:
Sometimes the customer asks for additional work, not for free, making a direct transfer to the contractor's details, and the time is naturally spent more than what was planned according to the original ToR.

That's a shame, though - you're bypassing the service - that's a shame about the rating....

This is - just - one of the things that speaks to the level of responsibility...

It is possible to make another order through the work as additional payment for additional work.... And your rating will help and the service will be clean!

 
IvanIvanov:

That's a shame, though - you're bypassing the service - that's a shame about the rating....

This is - just - one of the things that speaks to the level of responsibility...

It is possible to make another order through the work as additional payment for additional work.... And your rating will help and the service will be clean!


It's up to who likes it, if a person does not like the site's interface why should he bother.

If a person does not like the interface, why should he/she suffer?

 
abolk:

The top developers are becoming increasingly inaccessible to newbies. There are not only dilettantes among newbies, but also professional developers who write on mcl4/5 outside the service. For them, the Top is also inaccessible.

There are two ways to get into the top: 1) outright dumping and 2) cheating.

Examples of outright dumping are obvious. Just go to any application and you can see price bids - one less than the other. Perhaps lowering the price of development is a good thing. Perhaps it is the right thing to do - less money will be thrown away on the chimera of the financial markets. But because of low development prices specialists will leave the service. There are examples when specialists leave the service, or come and turn around.

Lower prices and specialists' departure will inevitably lead to the degradation of the service as a professional service provider.

There are examples of mark-ups and they are obvious.

The methodology of formation of the Top in its current form is exhausted. Top only on one indicator "number of jobs" generates contradictions, which in the near future will have to be resolved. The number of completed jobs in the conditions of dumping and markups - is not an indicator of professionalism.

There is a need to move to an integral indicator of the top, which forms the top on a professional basis. For example, you can include in the top of the presence of articles as with 5 and 4 (this will make the service available to "old" professionals with 4k). The Top by professional will allow to redirect efforts from dumping and scoring to writing articles, for example.

Who thinks so?

Good afternoon.

Two questions for the topicstarter:

1. Share some examples of "obvious cheating" ratings. Very interesting who or what are we talking about?

2. If the rating is so easy to cheat, what are you waiting for? Why not cheat yourself?

Tell us all the secrets, please.

 
Wahoo:

Share some examples of "obvious cheating" ratings. Very interesting who or what are we talking about?

Tell us all the secrets, please.

$5 rework. That's the scam.

It's even more fun if you do it yourself, like once a week with 5 tweaks.

For a month, that's +25 skins to your top. And for a year, you're higher than Techno. ))))

If you try hard, you'll be the best topnotch developer in a couple of months.


and you don't have to take any real orders at all. Congratulations - you broke the system :))

 
sergeev:

$5 worth of revisions. That's the markup.

It's even more fun if you do it yourself. like once a week with 5 modifications.

For a month, that's +25 skins added to your top. And for a year, you're higher than Techno. ))))

If you try hard, you'll be the best top in the world within a couple of months.


You don't have to take any real orders at all. Congratulations - you broke the system :))

Try to do the job yourself. You will be surprised with the result :).

And most importantly, why rating for the sake of rating?

I think you have to work fast and well, then the orders will be a lot and the rating will rise on its own, without any kind of nudges.

 

Earlier I suggested introducing attestation for basically the same purpose - to improve the service, but it was not approved.

At the moment the service gives me less than 10% income from orders and the dynamics is going down.

Once again, when a client is afraid to send me money directly, I am not in a hurry to tell him about this service.

Simply because seeing this service, he is likely to bite on the "I'll write for $ 10", place an order and give order to a non-professional.

Yes he will get for their greed appropriate quality, but I don't care, I'll lose the order.

 
MrGold166:

I have previously suggested introducing attestation for basically the same purpose - to improve the service, but they did not approve.

At the moment the service gives me less than 10% income from orders and the dynamics is going down.

Once again, when a client is afraid to send me money directly, I am not in a hurry to tell him about this service.

Simply because seeing this service, he is likely to bite on the "I'll write for $ 10", place an order and give order to a non-professional.

Yes, he will get for their greed appropriate quality, but I don't care, I'll lose the order.

And the rating is there then? Does your position at the top help you?

I am not, by the way, afraid to talk about this service, and in fact quite the contrary. I bring everyone who wants to be a leftist here. I have not lost anyone yet because of it.

 
Wahoo:

Good afternoon.

Two questions for the topicstarter:

1. Share some examples of "obvious cheating" ratings. Very interesting who or what are we talking about?

2. If the rating is so easy to cheat, what are you waiting for? Why not cheat yourself?

Tell us all the secrets, please.

Who shouts the most "get the thief" is the thief?

here you go, very suspicious: https://www.mql5.com/ru/users/neomatic/jobs_closed

 
MrGold166:

who shouts the most "get the thief" is the thief?

here you go, very suspicious: https://www.mql5.com/ru/users/neomatic/jobs_closed


What seems suspicious here?

Or you cannot write an advisor in 1 hour :)?

And I don't think it's me who is shouting the loudest. I do not have time for it.

 
Wahoo:

What seems suspicious here?

Or you can not write an adviser for 1 hour :)?


I can do it in 30 seconds, depending on the complexity, of course.

When the first order was placed for all the order was offered to do and cheaper. Then the price of the order looks very strange, 100$ each for all 3 of them.

Orders judging by the description of the elementary and not worth $ 100. Job description looks like... I would write the same, but not the customer is far from the programming and the wilds of the terminal.

This is all IMHO of course, and prove cheating almost impossible, only if everything is done very clumsily and a lot of cheating (can be matched). That is why it needs to improve the service (what TC suggested or what I suggested I or another option). Scored? great, but the real orders if you fail (timing / quality) - all the recruitment down the drain.

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