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Seyedmajid Masharian
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Seyedmajid Masharian  
Emmanuel Femi Ojo:

Marco, I don't get it...do you mean to say... this place is for non-professionals only? ...for those that belong to the 95% only? ...for loosers only? ...for newbies only? Clearly you are wrong! I have followed your posts and have admired your immense contributions so far, but and I'm very much disappointed with your response. Smells like another case of cyber-bullying here. Knowledge and inspiration is never too late to acquire. Even if you are right, sometimes even the kings seek words of wisdom from commoners in his domain.

You sure know much about genetic algorithm, an evolutionary algorithm, pretty well. Its one of the bedrock of the Metatrader backtest optimization procedure. After selecting an elite candidate pool (+/-2%) of best performing samples from a pre-processed population pool, what happens next in the Mutation part? It creates new chromosomes from blends or combinations of part of the elite pool (+/-98%) with parts of the non-selected pool (+/-2%). Its like saying "Hey... I'm ahead of the curve, but I need to periodically check what's out there, grab some promising stuffs from whats available out there, spice or tweek it up with some of my best performers to create a mutated sample. My mutated sample may as well come out to be the overall best performer. If the mutated sample does not work, I discard and move on." Its also like saying "Hey...I need to move out of my comfort zone, check for promising stuffs out there in case I missed something". And that's exactly what Seyedmajid Masharian is trying to do, in my opinion.

Even, Google, Youtube, etc, as examples, use similar algorithm or framework in serving you contents you searched for. You search for "Metatrader" but of 10 search results, it also serves you 1 "NinjaTrader". Like, "...you searched for this but you may also be interested in that". And guess what, some of the times you end up clicking on an item you didn't originally searched for.

By saying "I do not understand why a professional trader would come here to ask for ideas..." you are undermining the great contributions of, and derogating the names of multitudes of heavy weights of professionals on this platform. 

Please retract your statement and lets move on with Seyedmajid's quest for new ideas.

You said right even george soros , warren buffet and another leaders have had big mistakes . We are all human and mistake stick to us. So we have to co operate with each other to get a bigger picture and see the problems from another aspects or another guys eyes. because 2 brains work better than 1 brain .
Marco vd Heijden
Moderator
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Marco vd Heijden  
Emmanuel Femi Ojo:

Marco, I don't get it...do you mean to say... this place is for non-professionals only? ...for those that belong to the 95% only? ...for loosers only? ...for newbies only? Clearly you are wrong! 

I'm telling you there is something wrong with this picture.

And i am not going to retract anything.

From 100 idea's only five will be valid, and they will be valid ONLY if they are executed in the EXACT manner as they are executed by the one successfully applying them, which is problematic by itself.

If you are a truly professional profitable trader, your not going to waste any time on this, there is not a single reason to do so, you are making money, you better not change anything or the system stops working.

The only thing i could possibly come up with is that you are trying to perfect your own craft, this means making your own idea's better, NOT someone else's.

If you have Golden Goose #1 you nurture that so it will continue to lay nice golden eggs, you are not going to leave it and hunt for someone else's or a second goose.

That is the attitude of the wanderer, a professional trader knows exactly what he is doing and why.

It's like moving backwards, many traders work their way up to the top, how probable is it that once they made it, they start to look for way's to go back down ?

And that i do not understand, so give me a reason if you can.

Once the machine is rolling, i'd focus primarily on keeping it running, for as long as possible, and there not a single need to divert from that.

Seyedmajid Masharian
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Seyedmajid Masharian  
Marco vd Heijden:

I'm telling you there is something wrong with this picture.

And i am not going to retract anything.

From 100 idea's only five will be valid, and they will be valid ONLY if they are executed in the EXACT manner as they are executed by the one successfully applying them, which is problematic by itself.

If you are a truly professional profitable trader, your not going to waste any time on this, there is not a single reason to do so, you are making money, you better not change anything or the system stops working.

The only thing i could possibly come up with is that you are trying to perfect your own craft, this means making your own idea's better, NOT someone else's.

If you have Golden Goose #1 you nurture that so it will continue to lay nice golden eggs, you are not going to leave it and hunt for someone else's or a second goose.

That is the attitude of the wanderer, a professional trader knows exactly what he is doing and why.

It's like moving backwards, many traders work their way up to the top, how probable is it that once they made it, they start to look for way's to go back down ?

And that i do not understand, so give me a reason if you can.

Once the machine is rolling, i'd focus primarily on keeping it running, for as long as possible, and there not a single need to divert from that.

Please please do not change this forum path i only need another people comment about hedging we are not here to attack each other if you or anyone else are not intersted in my subject ignore it and leave this forum you are not have to force another people to your opinions . Please give some ideas about hedging and dont continue this useless comments please stop that here.
Emmanuel Femi Ojo
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Emmanuel Femi Ojo  
Marco vd Heijden:

I'm telling you there is something wrong with this picture.

And i am not going to retract anything.

From 100 idea's only five will be valid, and they will be valid ONLY if they are executed in the EXACT manner as they are executed by the one successfully applying them, which is problematic by itself.

If you are a truly professional profitable trader, your not going to waste any time on this, there is not a single reason to do so, you are making money, you better not change anything or the system stops working.

The only thing i could possibly come up with is that you are trying to perfect your own craft, this means making your own idea's better, NOT someone else's.

If you have Golden Goose #1 you nurture that so it will continue to lay nice golden eggs, you are not going to leave it and hunt for someone else's or a second goose.

That is the attitude of the wanderer, a professional trader knows exactly what he is doing and why.

It's like moving backwards, many traders work their way up to the top, how probable is it that once they made it, they start to look for way's to go back down ?

And that i do not understand, so give me a reason if you can.

Once the machine is rolling, i'd focus primarily on keeping it running, for as long as possible, and there not a single need to divert from that.

This response is even more shocking!!

1. Seyedmajid never said "hey I am a professional trader specialist in hedging..."

2. Maybe... Continual Professional Development (CPD) for professionals doesn't ring a bell? In part it means being a Specialist Surgeon and taking a 2 day class on Fundamentals of Mathematical Programming. So, if you are an experienced programmer, would you question what a a Specialist Surgeon is doing in a basic programming class?

3. One of the recipes for failure in trading is to assume its deterministic in nature. You know that more than anyone else. In trading, 1+1 may equal 2 yesterday, but same 1+1 may equal 1.9 today. If you are a professional and you always stick to your idea (or strategy) of 1+1=2 yesterday, going forward, you may fail, by Murphy's law. There is nothing bad in looking, on this platform, for new ideas that evolve with the market, that complements already existing and tested ideas on your professional arsenal.

4. "Once the machine is rolling, ...not a single need to divert from that.", but excuse me, the terrain is never even. The terrain is filled with mine fields, bumps and potholes. You never know what the market will throw at you tomorrow, so keeping your machine running without the flexibility to retrofit and adapt according to prevailing market conditions, according to the changing weather conditions...I would say, good luck with that.

But in all, I sincerely tender my apologies to Seyedmajid for the slight digress in topic. It just hurts to see on one hand people asking seemingly trivial or not, questions, or seeking ideas, or advises on the platform, but on the other hand you see others rubishing, devalueing, downgrading or even shaming those peoples efforts. And there are loads of those instances. If you cant contribute to a line of topic, just pass over. Just skip.

I rest my case here.

Marco vd Heijden
Moderator
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Marco vd Heijden  

And i rest my case as well.

Back on topic,

If someone has got any ideas for Mr. Seyedmajid Let's hear it.  

Thank you so much.

Seyedmajid Masharian
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Seyedmajid Masharian  
Marco vd Heijden:

And i rest my case as well.

Back on topic,

If someone has got any ideas for Mr. Seyedmajid Let's hear it.  

Thank you so much.

Thank you my friend
Fernando Carreiro
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Fernando Carreiro  

I agree wholeheartedly with @Marco vd Heijden's statement!

Plus, I would like to add, that a "true" professional (especially one with supposedly 9 years of experience), would also know the FACT that so-called "hedging/grid" on the same instrument is absolutely useless and can mathematically be replaced by net trades to achieve exactly the same outcome. In fact the net trades would actually save on spread as apposed to "hedging".

A professional trader KNOWS that the only True Hedging that works is when you use different instruments and/or markets and would never consider using the so called "hedging/grid". Only an amateur or someone who has no real knowledge of the mathematics of trading would consider such a possibility.

EDIT: Looks like the OP has not learnt the lesson as he posted a similar request 3 years back: https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/60923

Hence, I agree with @Marco vd Heijden that the OP is not a professional trader at all, but simply someone that has been at it for so long, equating that length of time to experience and knowledge, but unfortunately is not the case.


Marco vd Heijden:

I'm telling you there is something wrong with this picture.

And i am not going to retract anything.

From 100 idea's only five will be valid, and they will be valid ONLY if they are executed in the EXACT manner as they are executed by the one successfully applying them, which is problematic by itself.

If you are a truly professional profitable trader, your not going to waste any time on this, there is not a single reason to do so, you are making money, you better not change anything or the system stops working.

The only thing i could possibly come up with is that you are trying to perfect your own craft, this means making your own idea's better, NOT someone else's.

If you have Golden Goose #1 you nurture that so it will continue to lay nice golden eggs, you are not going to leave it and hunt for someone else's or a second goose.

That is the attitude of the wanderer, a professional trader knows exactly what he is doing and why.

It's like moving backwards, many traders work their way up to the top, how probable is it that once they made it, they start to look for way's to go back down ?

And that i do not understand, so give me a reason if you can.

Once the machine is rolling, i'd focus primarily on keeping it running, for as long as possible, and there not a single need to divert from that.

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Enrique Dangeroux
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Enrique Dangeroux  

Maybe first establish what is your definition of hedging. There seems to be a lot of confusion about what it is really, especially among forex traders.

Then establish when to employ a hedge. In other words, in what scenario it would make sense and at what cost, because it will come at a price, not only taking into account additional trading fees, but also the capital used for the hedge cannot be utilized until the hedge position is closed.

Hedging itself is not a strategy in itself, it can only be a part of it.

Seyedmajid Masharian
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Seyedmajid Masharian  
Enrique Dangeroux:

Maybe first establish what is your definition of hedging. There seems to be a lot of confusion about what it is really, especially among forex traders.

Then establish when to employ a hedge. In other words, in what scenario it would make sense and at what cost, because it will come at a price, not only taking into account additional trading fees, but also the capital used for the hedge cannot be utilized until the hedge position is closed.

Hedging itself is not a strategy in itself, it can only be a part of it.

We have different kinds of hedging but my porpose is that kind of hedging that you open opposite trades in one instrument.
Seyedmajid Masharian
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Seyedmajid Masharian  
Fernando Carreiro:

I agree wholeheartedly with @Marco vd Heijden's statement!

Plus, I would like to add, that a "true" professional (especially one with supposedly 9 years of experience), would also know the FACT that so-called "hedging/grid" on the same instrument is absolutely useless and can mathematically be replaced by net trades to achieve exactly the same outcome. In fact the net trades would actually save on spread as apposed to "hedging".

A professional trader KNOWS that the only True Hedging that works is when you use different instruments and/or markets and would never consider using the so called "hedging/grid". Only an amateur or someone who has no real knowledge of the mathematics of trading would consider such a possibility.

EDIT: Looks like the OP has not learnt the lesson as he posted a similar request 3 years back: https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/60923

Hence, I agree with @Marco vd Heijden that the OP is not a professional trader at all, but simply someone that has been at it for so long, equating that length of time to experience and knowledge, but unfortunately is not the case.


that is completely wrong because i have made such trading strategy . i have made it and looking for a professional trader to code it.

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