Blessing 2 v5.2 with Stochastic Indicator - page 28

 
castioni:
Hi all... This is my 2nd post, I'm totally a beginner. Anyway I've passed the last days reading *** ALL *** of classic and Stoch Blessing threads. What I don't understand is why using these EAs with several pairs should be a risk, if I set portion setting according the proper number of pairs. I mean, I've been testing these EAs for a week (both in classic and Stochatstic version) in demo mode with 9 pairs, portion set to 9, 0.01 starting lots. I started with $3000, now "my" balance is $3600. Where is the problem? Shouldn't the splitting of my money into several portions be safer than trading only one pair? If one of them blows its own portion of money, all the others should be still alive... Or not? Thanx in advance for your kind help...

Please list out the pairs you are using...

 
 
castioni:
Hi all... What I don't understand is why using these EAs with several pairs should be a risk, if I set portion setting according the proper number of pairs. Thanx in advance for your kind help...

First, let's get the minimum balance squared away.

From my own experience trading Blessing live, and from

several friends doing the same, you need a minimum of

$5K/pair. To be honest, $7K-$10K will provide more safety,

when Blessing runs into a big trend.

Don't think for a minute that running several pairs will

allow you to run less than the per-pair minimum required

balance. If you run 10 pairs on $3k, with portion=10, you

are allocating $300 per pair. An EP of 50% only gives you

$150 in float. Are you catching on, here? How long do you

think $150 would last, when Blessing hits a trend and you

are trading 10-cent pips? In a situation such as this, you

are actually adding MORE risk by running several pairs,

as opposed to just trading one pair.

I've seen, in many cases, where several pairs can go into

big DD at the same time. Many pairs are virtual mirrors of

each other and will move together, in lock-step. Once

three or four pairs go into countertrend, you better hope

you have a plenty of room for float, unless you don't mind

taking multiple EP hits.

Bottom line: If you want to trade 11 pairs properly, you

will need a $55K balance. If you want to trade one pair

properly, you will need a $5K balance. And, remember,

these are MINIMUM numbers.

Rob

 
ChicagoRob:
First, let's get the minimum balance squared away.

From my own experience trading Blessing live, and from

several friends doing the same, you need a minimum of

$5K/pair. To be honest, $7K-$10K will provide more safety,

when Blessing runs into a big trend.

Don't think for a minute that running several pairs will

allow you to run less than the per-pair minimum required

balance. If you run 10 pairs on $3k, with portion=10, you

are allocating $300 per pair. An EP of 50% only gives you

$150 in float. Are you catching on, here? How long do you

think $150 would last, when Blessing hits a trend and you

are trading 10-cent pips? In a situation such as this, you

are actually adding MORE risk by running several pairs,

as opposed to just trading one pair.

I've seen, in many cases, where several pairs can go into

big DD at the same time. Many pairs are virtual mirrors of

each other and will move together, in lock-step. Once

three or four pairs go into countertrend, you better hope

you have a plenty of room for float, unless you don't mind

taking multiple EP hits.

Bottom line: If you want to trade 11 pairs properly, you

will need a $55K balance. If you want to trade one pair

properly, you will need a $5K balance. And, remember,

these are MINIMUM numbers.

Rob

Rob,

That's a very good explanation. Thank you for your insights.

rptrader

 
feline207:
can you post a set file for that particular test. i dont believe backtests anymore but i havent seen 8000 profit for 6 months with any settings .. if its 0.01 starting lot. if its not thats another story ;D

I agree, backtest gives us ONLY a place to START...

Below is the graph and report for the 5 min backtest. I am now running it live (Demo) and it seems to be doing well. Still hasn't closed a position yet but in the positive around $50. Lot size .01, multiplier of 1.1 and trading only 1 pair

EUR/CHF.

I also changed the stochastic setting IN THE CODE (not on the first page but way in back). There are TWO settings of "20" & "80" one I believe is for when it is crossed upward and one for when it is crossed downward. I changed only the LAST SETTING of each, not the first 20 or 80, but the last 20 and 80.

I changed them to 30 & 70.

This should reduce "head fakes" as I am in a quicker chart, although this might help 1 hr chart settings also.

Did anyone do any more research into looking for a TREND device like what ganapati wanted??? I think if we could have a ADJUSTABLE trend follower it might be very good, so we can "season to taste" intead of a all or nothing type setting. --just my .02 cents ~

Any questions/comments always welcomed ~

Happy trading.

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I posted a little more of the code then what I tweaked just in case you don't get the same results, then maybe I missed one of the changes...

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chartwalker:
I posted a little more of the code then what I tweaked just in case you don't get the same results, then maybe I missed one of the changes... Chart ~

Chartwalker,

Thanks for posting your parameters!

rptrader

 
rptrader:
Chartwalker,

Thanks for posting your parameters!

rptrader

You're very welcome rptrader ~

I believe many heads are better then one

Please remember nothing has been forward tested (very long).

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Can you explain why you didn't change both settings for stoch.

And looking at the code you have changed to 30 & 60

chartwalker:

I also changed the stochastic setting IN THE CODE (not on the first page but way in back). There are TWO settings of "20" & "80" one I believe is for when it is crossed upward and one for when it is crossed downward. I changed only the LAST SETTING of each, not the first 20 or 80, but the last 20 and 80.

I changed them to 30 & 70.

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