Discussion of article "Interview with Irina Korobeinikova (irishka.rf)" - page 6

 
MetaDriver:

The element does not ask for our judgement. It does not seem to require much intelligence to understand this fact. But it is not enough for wisdom. It is necessary to drink this cup to the bottom, to realise the fact to the ground. Only complete humility in the face of such phenomena leads to a real understanding of their evolutionary role.

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We can talk about pornography. We can exchange opinions on pornography. Oh, yeah, we forgot all about drugs. And forex isn't far behind. :)

Kisses, everybody. Always with you.

The cup of wisdom is inexhaustible and there is no one who will drink this cup to the bottom. ))

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It can't be like this anymore,

It's so hard to live in ignorance without knowing the keys to the eternal locks,

I've learnt a marvellous feeling, its meaning is so pure and shining.

If you want to know it, give it all you've got, cleanse yourself,

Let your yellowed leaves fall.

This feeling is available to everyone, let yourself take it,

♪ We lock ourselves in, quietly and without words ♪

When you're almost ready to walk away from your personal delusions,

It's hard to rise above this forest of thorny flowers.

 
MetaDriver:
That's my humour in places. A hint that I realise the conventionality of the "great teacher's pose" I got into in the first paragraph.
Subtle! :-) I didn't realise it at first... :-)
 
tol64:

We hang the locks in ourselves, all quietly and without words,

When we're almost ready to walk away from our personal delusions,

It's so hard to rise above this forest of thorny flowers.

Sounds fundamental. But trapy. There's a contradiction created by the last line. In this formulation, the problem is insoluble.

// There's nothing left but to write poems and aesthetise. :) I don't mind, and I myself dabble once a year, but it is necessary to solve the problem.... ;)

I speak as a practitioner and technician in this case.

It is so difficult to rise above this forest of thorny colours.

You don't need to rise above the thorns. You don't need to sit on your arse. You need to realise as tightly as possible that

We hang the locks in ourselves

It is to realise, not to "learn" (which is pointless). To realise and feel, to get in touch with your mechanics (which you programmed yourself once).

If this is achieved, the rearrangement happens without effort and without any internal special actions, as if by itself.

// The first circuit rules in this case. And it works instantly, as soon as it gets to the point.

 
MetaDriver:

It sounds fundamental. But trapy. There's a contradiction created by the last line. In this formulation, the problem is insoluble.

// The only thing left to do is to write poems and aesthetise. :) I don't mind, and I myself dabble once a year, but it is necessary to solve the problem.... ;)

I speak as a practitioner and technician in this case.

You don't need to climb over thorns. You don't need to sit on your arse. You need to realise as tightly as possible that

It is to realise, not to "learn" (which is pointless). To realise and feel, to get in touch with your mechanics (which you programmed yourself once).

If this is achieved, the rearrangement happens without effort and without any internal special actions, as if by itself.

// The first circuit rules in this case. And it works instantly, as soon as it gets to the point.

What's there, an idea came to you, you take it and write it down, if it is beautiful. )) I don't walk around the room agonising over how to form a better rhyme. Everything happens by itself, just about once a year. On the full moon. ))

A problem should be solved when it's there, but if it's not there, then..... Or is there? What's the problem? ))

You don't have to climb over the thorns and sit in them. You can just leave all this rubbish and then the rebuilding will happen as well - by itself. In general, you can put different meanings into those lines. It is even possible that everyone will see something different, as it is similar in this case. )) I do not think that these thoughts belong to me, I just took them from space. They flew by, I thought, maybe they will be useful for someone. ))

 

tol64:

I don't consider these thoughts to be my own, I just took them from space. They were passing by, I thought maybe someone could use them. ))

Well, then pass my post to this space, in case it will be useful...

;-)

 
MetaDriver:

Well then, pass my post on to this space, in case it comes in handy....

;-)

For space in space already has everything it needs. ))
 
tol64:
For space in space already has everything it needs. ))

Well, that's your own idea. Ask him.

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// You're sly, but I'm slyer. I'm a son of a bitch. ;)

 
MetaDriver:

Well, that's your own idea. You should ask him.

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// You're sneaky, but I'm sneakier. I'm a son of a bitch. ;)

I didn't come up with anything. )) I borrowed it from space (actually asked for it, that is, made a request and got what I asked for). I own nothing, just like everyone else, in this world. Not even the tiniest particle. )))
 
tol64:
I didn't come up with anything. )) I borrowed it from space (actually asked, that is, made a request and got what I asked for). I own nothing, just like everyone else, in this world. Not even the tiniest particle. )))

Okay, I've talked you into it, I believe you, let's say. :)

Now explain from this map what you mean when you say "borrowed", "made a request" and "received".

And also who is this "I" who didn't invent anything. ;)

 
MetaDriver:

All right, you got me, I believe. Let's say. :)

Now explain from this map what you mean when you say "borrowed", "made a request" and "received".

And also who is this "I" who didn't invent anything. ;)

In any deep thinking journey, you will always come to a place where there are no answers to a lot of questions, no matter how far you go. One could formulate a sentence like this:

"For space in space already has everything it needs".

But everyone will see something different. Why does this happen? I don't know the true meaning. Why does this overflow of thoughts happen in my head? How are they born there?

You could complete the sentence above:

"For space in space already has everything it needs to be". ))

That's how it's clearer for some case, but not enough to understand, "Why be?" ))) And apparently that's why there was a verdict that I made it up myself. )))

I am part of space. Why did space create out of itself something that calls itself Self? I don't know. Apparently this belongs to those questions that we will never get an answer to. ))) Perhaps space itself wants to know itself through the clever tools it creates out of itself.

Since we do not yet know the answer to the question of how thoughts are born in our heads, "borrowed", "made a request", "received" can be taken as something abstract. Since the "I" is a part of space, my thoughts also belong to space and there is a constant interaction (the process of self-knowledge). That is, space asks itself these questions through the tools it has created from itself. Each of us (people - tools) works with our own thoughts. Many people have the same thoughts. Space distributes its thoughts to different tools with the purpose that some of them will solve this task better. The criteria are unknown to us. )))