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Alex_Bondar:
No, it doesn't make me happy. It's just a statement of fact. Especially if this fact is justified by social psychology, ancient Greeks and deep totalitarianism.
Okay. I deny everything. Happy? I didn't want you to stop being happy because of me.
Please relieve me of the burden of guilt, of your resentment.
Whether you meant to or not, you've succeeded in punishing me.
Please relieve me of the burden of guilt, of your resentment.
Lack of joy and dissatisfaction are different concepts. Even with the same ancient Greeks. Don't put a burden of guilt on yourself where a simple statement of fact was made.
In my opinion, the price of EAs in the Market should be such that the buyer could recover his investment in the purchase in a reasonably short period of time. This is assuming that an amount equivalent to the cost of the EA is put into the deposit.
That sounds logical. How to formalise this? How much money does the average target buyer invest? And what periods of time are considered short enough? Plus, we also need to consider the main factor, is there any point in selling the Grail at all?
I am a beginner and a teenager, as proven above, so I have no answers to these questions. My teenage maximalism says that one must start from initial deposit of $100K and EA price is a profit for the year, taking into account reinvestments.
Naturally, I'm talking about real trading, and then safely withdrawing the money.
I don't believe in such a scenario. The odds are no greater than the odds that tomorrow I will accidentally find a diamond the size of a watermelon. Although I'm a beginner, the experienced guys told me that a profitable trading system, formalized into an algorithm and tested in real life, is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, not tens as suggested bylordlev.
A $129 robot is specificallyfor 97% of traders.
Your "experienced uncles" may want to cheat themselves, or maybe they want to cheat someone else. Don't trust anyone when it comes to forex. Especially "experienced uncles". You just don't understand that "grails" don't exist and that real account with 3000% may very well exist, as may a working $129 advisor.
Do you know why they are selling it? They may well be honest sellers - because they can make more money selling that EA than if they were only trading it - given the fact that at any given time they can't know if their system will continue to work next month or if it's already broken. They were lucky and it worked normally for 2 years. The understanding of this fact comes only with experience; inexperienced traders, like you, are eager to believe in universal algorithms that solve the "market formula" and promise them constant and everlasting enrichment. Why for 129 and not 100000 - it's just a pricing policy, the calculation - less cost - more customers and higher profits - so the cost is a tactical issue. Will they buy 1000 EAs for 129 when widely advertised or 1 for 100000? In my opinion, 1000 for 129 is definitely better. So the figure of 129 shows the knowledge of the market and a sober estimate of your product and its real price.
Your "experienced uncles" may want to deceive themselves, or they may want to deceive someone else. Don't trust anyone when it comes to forex. Especially "experienced uncles". You just don't understand that "grails" don't exist and that real account with 3000% may very well exist, as may a working $129 advisor.
Do you know why they are selling it? They may well be honest sellers - because they can make more money selling that EA than if they were only trading it - given the fact that at any given time they can't know if their system will continue to work next month or if it's already broken. They were lucky and it worked normally for 2 years. The understanding of this fact comes only with experience; inexperienced traders, like you, are eager to believe in universal algorithms that solve the "market formula" and promise them constant and everlasting enrichment. Why for 129 and not 100000 - it's just a pricing policy, the calculation - less cost - more customers and higher profits - so the cost is a tactical issue. Will they buy 1000 EAs for 129 when widely advertised or 1 for 100000? In my view, 1000 for 129 is clearly better. So the figure of 129 shows your knowledge of the market and a sober estimation of the product and its real price.
I see. Well, I am still far away from selling EAs, but when the time comes I will probably figure out whom to trust and how to form the price.
At the moment, the profitable Expert Advisor for $129 is to me the same wildness as the restaurant for $150 or the bank for $500. That is a "charitable win-win ride" ))))
... At the moment, a profitable Expert Advisor for $129 is to me as wild as a restaurant for $150 or a bank for $500. That is a "charitable win-win ride" ))))
Here's an example as I understand the Forex Growth Box Expert Advisor. If monitoring is to be believed, profits >3000% over >2 years on a real account. It costs $129 on the Internet.
Why? Yes because its authors are adequate people, they understand the cost of past results of even real trading, let alone test fittings.
Indeed I am new to algotrading, however I am not a young man and can distinguish constructive criticism by professionalism from bazaar rhetoric, the question specifically in this thread, is not about the functionality of Mr.lordlev grail,but in the reaction of the community to its placement in the market, which unfortunately in some places is not other than a collective farm turned out. The author himself also distinguished himself by falling for some rhetorical provocations when he should have ignored such "outbursts".
This thread itself is not in his favor either, as it shows insecurity, an attempt to justify himself, but why? If the Grail is there, there must be a profound indifference))))
Not professional marketing in general.
Except about moderators, I agree with him. A moderator is a superior being, a status which means he must not stoop to boorish "tricks" and only fatherly encourage or punish.
Perhaps one should change the formal rules for placing experts on the market, introduce quality control criteria based on price, real-time sites, etc.
But only newbies like me are allowed to make fun)))). Since no one will pay attention to me and the credibility of MQ I will not undermine, and serious people have to be serious ...
Men don't dance, they even walk with difficulty!
If monitoring is to be believed, profits >3000% in >2 years on a real account.
I don't believe in such a scenario. The probability is no greater than that I will accidentally find a diamond the size of a watermelon tomorrow. Although I'm a beginner, but the experienced guys told me that a profitable trading system, formalized into an algorithm and tested in real life, is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, not tens aslordlev suggested.
A $129 robot is specificallyfor 97% of traders.