Taras Gonchar: and what makes you think that this number of subscribers affected the place in the ranking? I told you (and I can confirm it) that with the same number of subscribers and loss of trading history, the rating instantly falls, and not just a few. what kind of signals are more reliable and of higher quality?
I had a 44% drawdown when the yield was 20% per month... at a yield of 10%, the drawdown holds less than 10%
We are talking about signals on MT5. In the top are clearly unworthy signals and it is obvious.
Taras Gonchar: What makes you think that this number of subscribers influenced the place in the rating? I don't know why you think it has any effect on the ranking. what kind of signals are more reliable and of higher quality?
I had a 44% drawdown when the yield was 20% per month... at a yield of 10%, the drawdown holds less than 10%
no one is attacking you -- we're just thinking -- so there's no need to get defensive.
highlighted your phrase"with the same number of subscribers and loss of trading history rating instantly falls and not a few" and your question"this is what signals are more reliable and of higher quality? what do you estimate?"
now let me explain, just to be clear:
-- the loss of history was a year -- but what is this year? it was a year that had a 20% return and a 44% drawdown
-- so there was only the last period when you started trading at 10% profitability and less drawdown
So it turns out that this is what you described above:
The flaw in the rating calculation. And then the provider will simply trade with less and less profitability, just not to kill the previous results ...
i.e. you formed a high "growth" at first -- and then the "number of subscribers" attracts the "number of subscribers" -- and the signal is "not the same" anymore.
And the fact that your signal, when calculating the growth over the last year, is rapidly rolling back over the 20 -- that's what says that your signal is not the best.
fxsaber: This is an interesting situation. The main income comes from subscribers, not from trading?
Yes. But if I've got 5 million subscribers and profitability is 10% (500 thousand), and I've got 24k for subscription (5% of profit), then I would call it "earned by trading".
Evgeny Belyaev: Why risk a big deposit if you can trade on cent. This is called a clever MM!
You may also say, "Why should I open a real account if I already have one and there are no subscribers there? I'm not sure that if it were not a cent account, the ISP would have repeated the result.
Taras Gonchar: I'm not sure if it's not a cent account, the ISP would have repeated the result. I'm not sure that if it were not a cent account, the ISP would repeat the result.
is this your signal or not - you're not talking about yourself in the third person, are you?
no one is attacking you -- we're just thinking -- so there's no need to get defensive.
highlighted your phrase"with the same number of subscribers and loss of trading history rating instantly falls and not a few" and your question"this is what signals are more reliable and of higher quality? what do you estimate?"
now let me explain, just to be clear:
-- the loss of history was a year -- but what is this year? it was a year that had a 20% return and a 44% drawdown
-- so there was only the last period when you started trading at 10% profitability and less drawdown
I.e. the result is the same as you described above:
i.e. the first time you formed a high "gain" -- and then the "number of subscribers" attracts the "number of subscribers" -- and the signal is "not the same".
And the fact that your signal, when calculating the growth over the last year, sharply rolls back over 20 -- that's what says that your signal is not the best.
I'm not saying that anyone attacked... if you're interested, I can answer your questions.
If you're interested, i may answer your question. the signal (I do not know whose) rolled back and was not the best because it was only a "signal-semiannual"... this is normal... it would be worse if the top places could be taken by signals with a 1-2 month history
This is an interesting situation. The main income comes from subscribers, not from trading?
and what makes you think that this number of subscribers affected the place in the ranking?
I told you (and I can confirm it) that with the same number of subscribers and loss of trading history, the rating instantly falls, and not just a few.
what kind of signals are more reliable and of higher quality?
I had a 44% drawdown when the yield was 20% per month...
at a yield of 10%, the drawdown holds less than 10%
What makes you think that this number of subscribers influenced the place in the rating?
I don't know why you think it has any effect on the ranking.
what kind of signals are more reliable and of higher quality?
I had a 44% drawdown when the yield was 20% per month...
at a yield of 10%, the drawdown holds less than 10%
no one is attacking you -- we're just thinking -- so there's no need to get defensive.
highlighted your phrase"with the same number of subscribers and loss of trading history rating instantly falls and not a few" and your question"this is what signals are more reliable and of higher quality? what do you estimate?"
now let me explain, just to be clear:
-- the loss of history was a year -- but what is this year? it was a year that had a 20% return and a 44% drawdown
-- so there was only the last period when you started trading at 10% profitability and less drawdown
So it turns out that this is what you described above:
Forum on trading, automated trading systems and trading strategies testing
1200 subscribers!!!
Marat Khabiev, 2017.01.16 18:23
The flaw in the rating calculation. And then the provider will simply trade with less and less profitability, just not to kill the previous results ...i.e. you formed a high "growth" at first -- and then the "number of subscribers" attracts the "number of subscribers" -- and the signal is "not the same" anymore.
And the fact that your signal, when calculating the growth over the last year, is rapidly rolling back over the 20 -- that's what says that your signal is not the best.
This is an interesting situation. The main income comes from subscribers, not from trading?
But if I've got 5 million subscribers and profitability is 10% (500 thousand), and I've got 24k for subscription (5% of profit), then I would call it "earned by trading".
Why risk a big deposit if you can trade on cent. This is called a clever MM!
I'm not sure that if it were not a cent account, the ISP would have repeated the result.
I'm not sure if it's not a cent account, the ISP would have repeated the result.
I'm not sure that if it were not a cent account, the ISP would repeat the result.
no one is attacking you -- we're just thinking -- so there's no need to get defensive.
highlighted your phrase"with the same number of subscribers and loss of trading history rating instantly falls and not a few" and your question"this is what signals are more reliable and of higher quality? what do you estimate?"
now let me explain, just to be clear:
-- the loss of history was a year -- but what is this year? it was a year that had a 20% return and a 44% drawdown
-- so there was only the last period when you started trading at 10% profitability and less drawdown
I.e. the result is the same as you described above:
i.e. the first time you formed a high "gain" -- and then the "number of subscribers" attracts the "number of subscribers" -- and the signal is "not the same".
And the fact that your signal, when calculating the growth over the last year, sharply rolls back over 20 -- that's what says that your signal is not the best.
If you're interested, i may answer your question.
the signal (I do not know whose) rolled back and was not the best because it was only a "signal-semiannual"... this is normal... it would be worse if the top places could be taken by signals with a 1-2 month history
So is this your signal or not -- you don't talk about yourself in the third person, do you?
I can answer in person... but here I'm not sure I can