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Maxim Dmitrievsky:

By the way, gay people have also been bred by psychology fans, indoctrinating them that it's normal and everyone is capable of being gay

Now it's even fashionable, so don't be surprised if someone in the transport stops to look at your thick beard.

Thanks to psychology, with the help of intrigue, blackmail and bribery, I'm now co-owner of a racetrack, and if I tell which one and prove that it's true, you'll feel really bad, and then may develop cancer from envy, also by the way, for psychological reasons ...

 
Vasily Perepelkin:

Thanks to psychology, with the help of intrigue, blackmail and bribery, I am now co-owner of a racetrack, and if I tell which and prove that it is true, then you Maxim really feel bad, and then maybe from envy and cancer will develop, also by the way for psychological reasons ...

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Aleksey Vyazmikin:

If you paid a little attention to this science, you would know that neural connections are formed under the influence of external factors, this is what psychology studies, while physiology (in the broad sense) can only study the mechanism of formation (regeneration and mechanical (chemical) connections), but not the cause and effect.

Accordingly, psychology studies the reaction of the brain (as a self-modifying mechanism) to the outside world.

Everything else in psychology is tools both for describing processes influencing the formation of neuronal connections and for influencing the creation of new connections, which are usually acceptable to society, and thus to the individual.

You have to look deeper.

Where did psychology learn about neural connections?

 
Maxim Dmitrievsky:

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You do not need it, you have no idea what you are asking, in fact I do not care about your health, but if they identify my personality, then my foolishness here can be perceived as a weakness and suffer terrible because of it. People with 7-8 dollar billings should behave in a certain format, again, psychology, otherwise in order to maintain their authority they have to be excessively cruel, which is also not acceptable now.

 
Maxim Dmitrievsky:

Where did psychology learn about neural connections?

I have already said before that psychology takes advantage of all the knowledge of related sciences.

But, let's not even go far and mention Sigmund Freud's work in this direction

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Freud's research was very successful. Some of his first published works, written between 1877 and 1883, contained discoveries that could by no means be called insignificant. They confirmed the evolutionary process in the nervous system of the fish that Freud examined under the microscope. Moreover, in retrospect, these articles were the initial link in the chain of ideas that led to the creation of scientific psychology, the first outline of which he formulated in 1895. Freud worked on a theory describing how nerve cells and nerve fibers function as one. He then pursued other problems, and when, in 1891, Wilhelm Waldeyer published his landmark monograph on neuronal theory, Freud's primacy in this field was ignored. "This case is far from the only one," wrote Ernest Jones, "in which the young Freud lost world fame right out of his hands, for he had not yet dared to bring his thoughts to their logical conclusion.

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In psychology there are many different scientific schools and directions that can study different aspects of the human inner world. If we represent this in the framework of MO, each such school has developed a number of its predictors, with the help of which it tries to understand/describe the formation of connections of billions of neurons, it is clear that this method is generalizing, and in recent years there is a consolidation of knowledge, its evaluation, and culling of erroneous opinions. All terms in psychology are used to understand a process, even a part of a process, it is a special language that helps to understand and describe what is going on inside a person's consciousness.

The neuropsychology textbook in particular mentions that thought has a material form.

The trouble is that psychology is very stereotypically perceived by society in the former Soviet Union. And, yes, a lot of non-professionals continue to work in this field, even now there is a telephone law and you can be falsified any diagnosis - I had such a case in my practice, with difficulty I managed to get the person out.

 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

In psychology, there are many different scientific schools and directions that can study different aspects of the human inner world. If we represent this in the framework of MO, each such school has developed a number of its predictors, with the help of which it tries to understand/describe the formation of billions of neurons, it is clear that this method is generalizing, and in recent years there is a consolidation of knowledge, its evaluation, and culling of erroneous opinions. All terms in psychology are used to understand a process, even a part of a process, it is a special language that helps to understand and describe what is going on inside a person's consciousness.

The neuropsychology textbook in particular mentions that thought has a material form.

The trouble is that psychology is very stereotypically perceived by society in the former Soviet Union. And, yes, a lot of non-professionals continue to work in this field, even now there is a telephone right and you can fabricate any diagnosis - there was such a case in my practice, with difficulty I managed to get the person out.

It seems like diagnoses are more a part of psychiatry than psychology. Psychologists are not really doctors - they don't even prescribe medication.

The attitude toward post-Soviet psychology is quite justified. Before, for example, there were no real psychoanalysts at all - from a branch going back to Freud.

 
Aleksey Nikolayev:

It seems that diagnoses are more a part of psychiatry than psychology. Psychologists are not really doctors - they don't even prescribe medicine.

The attitude toward post-Soviet psychology is quite justified. Before, for example, there were no real psychoanalysts at all - from a branch going back to Freud.

The psychiatrist draws his conclusions from the findings of the psychologist, and even better left decisions are pushed through collegially with the involvement of the head of the PND.

About "before", it is quite a long time ago, I know people who were retrained and read successfully practicing psychologists, in the same Georgia, who apply child psychoanalysis in their work, with some additions.

In the Russian Federation they do more of a wrap because the client does not digest the truth of life. Sometimes you read such rubbish, and it's not because the person is a fool, but because later people who don't understand psychology read it and they need to present everything in an understandable form, but because of this form all the meaning is lost.
 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

As for "before", it's a long time ago, I know people who retrained and read successfully practicing psychologists in the same Georgia, who apply child psychoanalysis in their work, with some additions.

The point is that the psychoanalyst during the training and even after it, when already working, should analyze himself with his teacher. Otherwise, it is quackery, dangerous for him and his patients. In the past, this rule was, to put it mildly, neglected. How it is now, I do not know.

 
Aleksey Nikolayev:

The point is that the psychoanalyst, during his studies and even afterwards, when already working, must be analyzed by his teacher. Otherwise, it is quackery, dangerous for him and his patients. In the past, this rule was, to put it mildly, neglected. How it is now, I do not know.

Psychoanalysis does not necessarily have to be performed by the person who taught it; another, independent specialist can be a supervisor. There are some institutions where this is practiced (although mostly on paper), but more often psychologists simply attend refresher courses. For this reason, very often psychologists themselves very often project their own feelings onto clients, which interferes with adequate work. The world is not perfect and there are many non-professionals, it is just more difficult to expose them, because an uninformed person cannot evaluate the work, and the one who is able to evaluate is afraid to give his own evaluation (I had such experience), there is a "mutual responsibility", especially in state institutions.

If we look at the situation objectively, in Russia psychologists' salaries in state-financed institutions are very low, in my opinion they should be an order of magnitude higher than those of teachers. And until the situation changes, there will be people working either to compensate for their needs, or those who do not want (cannot) learn to earn more - untalented non-professionals.
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