Machine learning in trading: theory, models, practice and algo-trading - page 3262

 
СанСаныч Фоменко #:

A level becomes a level when it has ended and there will be a different level in the future in which trading decisions are made, i.e. a level has no predictive power.

But in reality it is even worse.

Building TS on levels at the stage of training, testing can give excellent results because of "looking ahead", as we teach on ready-made levels, and when we start counting the predictor, there will be no level - see above. Therefore, the prediction error on different there ALE OOS can give excellent results, but if we start chasing step by step outside the training files, doing predictor calculations, the classification error will be arbitrary.

disagree with any of the above

 
mytarmailS #:
No one has ever built a successful algorithm on stochastics and other curveballs.

This is very controversial. At least my robots refute it. But there is specificity there and some addition to "stochastics and other curveballs".

mytarmailS #:
but together these strategies generate stable profits

I agree with that, that's how they work for me.

But it would be better to put it all in a separate topic, it doesn't belong here. And me too, I am not mature enough for MO yet, and there is no incentive - it works quite well as it is.

 
JRandomTrader #:

I agree with that, that's how they work for me.

And it can't not work, it's pure mathematics.
 
mytarmailS #:

Strategies can be the most unsightly, the only thing that matters is that the average balance increment is greater than zero


generate 100 conditional strategies with an average above zero


profit on individual strategies is below zero and the strategies themselves look terrible


but together these strategies generate stable profits

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That's how it is... by rethinking everything a bit and giving up quality (one good TS) you can move to quantity and as a result come to quality.


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The only question is how to select strategies with non-zero expectations.

Everything else is solvable

Why then the league of trading systems does not work very well ?
Maybe we should move the discussion of the topic of trading several systems there ?!!!
 
Roman Kutemov #:
Why then is the trading systems league not working very well ?
h ttps://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/272032/page404
Maybe there we should move the discussion of the topic of trading multiple systems there ?!!!
kind of hints :-)
 
Maxim Kuznetsov #:
kind of hints :-)
To what? )
He's even frozen the experiments for now.
 
Roman Kutemov #:
Why then the league of trading systems does not work very well?

The main condition is not fulfilled there - all systems must be profitable.

 
Roman Kutemov #:
On what?)
He's even frozen the experiments for now.

that a generally good idea (group growth/decline of typical algorithms like market indication and "drift" of their optimal parameters) was killed by an optimiser.

and the sum of strategies or a selection of strategies does not give a plus. "there are barrels of tartar and honey: no matter how you put them together and select them, they will not be better; even mixing the individual ones, you cannot separate the honey".

 
JRandomTrader #:

The main condition is not fulfilled there - all systems must be profitable.

I think that's not the point.
They shouldn't all be profitable, otherwise it's obvious.
 
Roman Kutemov #:
I think that's exactly the point.
They don't all have to be profitable, otherwise it's obvious.

Yes, there may be one or two lousy sheep in the flock, with a slight disadvantage. But not for long, selection does its job. I'm talking about my own.

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