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Marco vd Heijden
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Marco vd Heijden  
Seyedmajid Masharian:

thank you sir

Thank you so much.

Seyedmajid Masharian
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Seyedmajid Masharian  
Chris Mukengeshayi:

We are not asking you to sell us anything, we are not going to subscribe to your signal. Just publish what you claim, to upload a signal on mql doesn't cost you any cent, just publish so that everyone will see the real proof, the last time you had publish a demo account with a starting capital of $ 10 000.00 you can't even keep up with being profitable on a demo account, what proves you that you can handle a live account, for someone with a 10 years experience and still blow up demo account " po! po! po! " claiming that they are profitable on live account what a scammer, you surely have 10 years of blowing up demo account and continually dreaming that a demo account will ever turn into a live account, shame man!!! telling people that you will share your profitable strategy is like telling a 5 years old kid that you will buy them a sweet " do you know how much that 5 years old kid will believe you? " we have experience of those promises :-) , or you are just a lier and keep on dreaming about you profitable strategy. Don't come here and try to sell us dreams. we don't want you dreams, we want proof of your claim.

I did this in one week. No hedging strategy, straight knowledge of price action of EW.

publish



I'm a better trader than you Sayedmajid

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Keith Watford
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Keith Watford  

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If posting results from an EA also post the EA source code.

Wesley Velasques
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Wesley Velasques  

This post is old but is worth making a comment that i have not seen people making here, if you think that hedging is only a strategy used to protect yourself against market downs you could not be more wrong and also more ignorant.

A lot of trading systems, professional hedge funds algos and hfts and maybe some retail traders (with brain) explores the hedging strategy using a variety of arbitrage strategies , long short (statistical, fundamental and so on), arbitrage between etfs and their basket of stocks, futures against their basket of stocks (also known as cash and carry trades).


You can arbitrage Options with similar strike prices to make profit (this one HFTS do a LOT), you can arbitrate calls and puts at the same strike price, you can use futures of bitcoin against the spot price to catch distortions.

The possibilities are infinite, and gains are not correlated to the overall market and usualy are limited to your lot size and the volume of the security that you are looking to apply your strategy, these strategies use to be "risk free" trades and also kinda challenges the Markowitz portifolio theory that in order to have more returs you have to take more risks, thats true if you let your position drift around depending on good will of a big player or a crowd of people to see the same trade than you and also to think that you are the great genius that saw the oportunity before a lot of people.


A considerable amount of these quant strategies are based on the possibility of Hedging your position using a correlated products or the same product traded elswere.


WIth that bieing said if you never looked to markets with these eyes you are losing a lot of oportunities that you dont even knew they were oportunities.  

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Keith Watford
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Wesley Velasques:

This post is old but is worth making a comment that i have not seen people making here, if you think that hedging is only a strategy used to protect yourself against market downs you could not be more wrong and also more ignorant.

This topic isn't really about hedging, it is about "hedging".

Hedging is a valid strategy.

"Hedging" is opening an opposite order with the same instrument. Many people mistakenly believe that opening an opposite order instead of closing the first order is somehow beneficial.

Wesley Velasques
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Wesley Velasques  
Keith Watford:

This topic isn't really about hedging, it is about "hedging".

Hedging is a valid strategy.

"Hedging" is opening an opposite order with the same instrument. Many people mistakenly believe that opening an opposite order instead of closing the first order is somehow beneficial.

lmao 

AIRAT SAFIN
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AIRAT SAFIN  
Keith Watford:

This topic isn't really about hedging, it is about "hedging".

Hedging is a valid strategy.

"Hedging" is opening an opposite order with the same instrument. Many people mistakenly believe that opening an opposite order instead of closing the first order is somehow beneficial.

In Russia opening an opposite order with the same instrument is a criminal offence

Motivation => unfair competition by avoiding losses

So by your logic the government is stupid too

Keith Watford
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Keith Watford  
AIRAT SAFIN:

In Russia opening an opposite order with the same instrument is a criminal offence

Motivation => unfair competition by avoiding losses

So by your logic the government is stupid too

If the government thinks that by "hedging" one can avoid losses, then yes, it is stupid.

"Hedging" can only postpone realising those losses.

AIRAT SAFIN
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AIRAT SAFIN  
Keith Watford:

If the government thinks that by "hedging" one can avoid losses, then yes, it is stupid.

"Hedging" can only postpone realising those losses.

I understood you well

Thanks for the clear and concise answer

Mosleur Rahaman Riad
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Mosleur Rahaman Riad  
The best way to understand hedging is to think of it as a form of insurance. When people decide to hedge, they are insuring themselves against a negative event's impact on their finances. This doesn't prevent all negative events from happening.