Harmonic Patterns

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Harrison Walls
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Harrison Walls  

Hi,

I am looking for a correctly coded harmonic indicator that shows most if not all of the standard harmonic patterns (shark, abcd, gartley, butterfly, crab, etc)

There are many out there such as the Korharmonics and ZUP indicator, but both of these have the same issue with the last leg of the pattern repainting itself. This is due to the fact that they both use the zig zag indicator as its primary measurement for highs and lows and pattern formations. This is absolutely incorrect and not the way it should be done. What happens is that when you get a harmonic pattern formation but the final validation lag will go up and down with the zig zag thus you have no idea when or where the pattern ends and are left guessing as to its validity.

The harmonic patterns should be drawn and based off math. Not the zig zag indicator. Once a pattern has formed, it has formed and that is it.

Anyone have such an indicator?

- forexmmm

Harrison Walls
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Harrison Walls  

I would need the source code as well.

Thank you

Mladen Rakic
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Mladen Rakic  
forexmm:
I would need the source code as well.

Thank you

Check this thread (a lot of source code there) : https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/173588

Harrison Walls
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Harrison Walls  

Hi Mladen,

Thank you for the reply.

All of the indicators in that post use the zig zag indciator for making harmonic patterns, which is why all of them do not work. Anyone wonder why all of those harmonic indicators do not work effectively, and why all the EA made out of them fail miserably? Because they use zigzag.

Harmonics should be based off math and math alone. Not an ndicator like zigzag that constantly changes when the price reaches higher highs and lower lows. 95% of all the signals from ZUP and korharmonics are false.

Yes, you can use PRZ and other filters, but why? It is unnecessary.

Anyways, I am hoping to find one that does not use zigzag. I have only found one to date that is in the mql4 marketplace but the author is unavailable or not selling it anymore as he hasn't replied in months.

- forexmm

Harrison Walls
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Harrison Walls  

There is a reason why Harmonics have not taken off as the most profitable trading system. This is because everyone has been trying to make a profitable trading system using a harmonic indicator that repaints constantly.

Mladen Rakic
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Mladen Rakic  
forexmm:
There is a reason why Harmonics have not taken off as the most profitable trading system. This is because everyone has been trying to make a profitable trading system using a harmonic indicator that repaints constantly.

forexmm

I don't think that it is possible to make a harmonics indicator that does not "repaint". Since it depends on extremes, extremes on current bars are always a subject of change and as a result you have a "repainting". Otherwise it would be a holly grail

Harrison Walls
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Harrison Walls  

Yes, It is defiantly possible. I have seen them before, just in different formats for different trading platforms - not for mt4. They are not widely talked about or published

The reason why they are not the holy grail is because when they do not repaint the final leg, there are many false patterns that occur in heavily trending markets. This is obviously avoided with repainting harmonic indicators as the PRZ is violated or the harmonic pattern setup has failed, the pattern itself disappears.The signals of a non repainting harmonic indicator that happen before the main trend and in ranging markets are very accurate.

Which would you rather....a harmonic indicator like zup or korharmonics that repaints 95% of its signals and always leaves you guessing? OR a harmonic indicator that does not repaint but has 30% false signals in trending markets that is easily avoidable with various types of filters?

The whole basis for how all the harmonic indicators that are in the forex market are made up of is WRONG. None of them should be based on the zigzag indicator. I don't know how this exactly got so stuck in peoples head, because this is how all of them are programmed. How can you base something off an indicator that constantly repaints with higher highs and lower lows? It doesn't make any sense. If a pattern happens, it happens, regardless of if you get higher highs and lower lows and it should stay not disappear from the chart when the price goes higher or lower.

- forexmm

Harrison Walls
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Harrison Walls  

If you would like to discuss more mladen, feel free to message me and I will give you my email or skype. I can show you some examples of non repainting harmonic indicators.

josruirod6
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josruirod6  
Harrison Walls:

If you would like to discuss more mladen, feel free to message me and I will give you my email or skype. I can show you some examples of non repainting harmonic indicators.


like which one?

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like which one?


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Sergey Golubev, 2014.01.10 09:14

Harmonic Trading, Volume Two: Advanced Strategies for Profiting from the Natural Order of the Financial Markets

by Scott M. Carney




Now, in Harmonic Trading: Volume 2, Carney takes a quantum leap forward, introducing new strategies, patterns, and methods that make Harmonic Trading an even more powerful tool for trading the financial markets. For the first time, he reveals how to utilize harmonic impulse waves and introduces measurement techniques that identify market turning points even more accurately. Finally, he demonstrates how to integrate the Relative Strength Indicator (RSI) with advanced Harmonic Trading techniques to separate minor “reactive” moves from major opportunities.


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Harmonic Trading

Muhammad Syamil Bin Abdullah, 2017.04.24 12:21

Hi,

There's a Harmonics Indicator created for MetaTrader 5 which can detect more than 50 patterns, displaying emerging patterns, PRZ zone and much more.

https://www.mql5.com/en/code/16852

In my opinion it is more advance and more features than ZUP indicator.



Harmonic Pattern Finder V2 - indicator for MetaTrader 5

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