Discussion of article "The price movement model and its main provisions (Part 2): Probabilistic price field evolution equation and the occurrence of the observed random walk" - page 4
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To patterns of price behaviour, potential fields and more.
There is a lot of noise in the market, and its physics (physical structure) does not often manifest itself. Today was a success: the EUR interest rate hike caused a speculative movement back and forth and a fading cancellation of the result.
If you like radio physics so much, highlight such fragments where the signal is clearly higher than the noise and the signal (and noise too) can be studied. It is useless to start with other places or with the whole history at once.
I studied this for writing my indicators, so-called optimal filtering, but here the article is about something else.
There are many more comments here. For a problem to be solvable, its description must be correct. You yourself asked my advice when you said that nobody has solved this problem. No one will ever solve it in this form. Only Ivan the Fool successfully solved the problem "Go there without knowing the code, find that without knowing what". Your ideas may even be brilliant, but they must be expressed accurately and correctly, otherwise no one will distinguish them from nonsense.
This is a big problem I have encountered many times. A person who has received materialistic education + theorver and matstat without specifying the limits of their possible applicability, in principle does not want to hear anything, let alone try to understand the theory of harmony of the world order, which was written about by Pythagoreans, Kepler, Bruno, Leibniz, Hegel, Pauli. Einstein in his research relies on "original harmony" (Leibniz's term) and asks the question "Am I crazy or is everything around me?"
Meanwhile, the dialectical spiral of development, discovered by Hegel, has the form of a double golden spiral unfolded in time - a quite concrete mathematical object, and the task is to see this structure in the jumble of price jumps.
And not only to see it, it has already been done, but to build an apparatus that would trace this structure without human participation.
That's what I wrote about in the article, or rather, I wrote that they are not applicable for analysing the pricing process, but there are many other processes on the stock exchange, of course, for analysing which probability theory and mathematical statistics work quite correctly.
In my opinion, the greatest interest is in analysing the pricing process - it doesn't matter whether it is a fading process or a momentum-setting one. Understanding what is happening is the main condition for entering the market.
... discovered by Hegel ...
By the way, Hegel is a good example of how thoughtless application of metaphysics only disgraces this science and philosopher. We are talking about his famous "proof" that there should be exactly seven planets in the solar system, written shortly before the discovery of the eighth).
We can also recall the story of how Plato's academy did not admit a man ignorant in mathematics because he had "nothing to learn philosophy".
So once again - first physics and only then metaphysics, otherwise you will get only crazy nonsense twisted on trivial physical models.
By the way, Hegel is a good example of how thoughtless application of metaphysics only disgraces this science and philosopher. I am talking about his famous "proof" that there should be exactly seven planets in the solar system, written shortly before the discovery of the eighth planet).
One can also recall the story of how Plato's academy did not admit a man ignorant in mathematics because he had "nothing to learn philosophy with".
So once again - first physics and only then metaphysics, otherwise you will get only crazy nonsense twisted on trivial physical models.
You seem to be a great expert in both...
... the dialectical spiral of development discovered by Hegel ....
Hegel in principle could not OPEN anything.
He could only formulate a concept (write a lot of words) and select facts in the surrounding reality that confirm it.
And about the facts that contradicted the concept, he kept silent)
This did not make the concept cease to be a set of words and did not become a kind of OPENING...
Hegel in principle could not OPEN anything.
He could only formulate a concept (write a lot of words) and select facts in the surrounding reality that confirm it.
And about the facts that contradicted the concept, he kept silent)
This did not make the concept cease to be a set of words and did not become an OPENING....
Thanks for the valuable correction. Indeed, Hegel, did not discover the SPIRAL of development. His rearrangement of the ancient concept that the world is governed by two opposing but complementary forces that replace each other was called the spiral of development by Lenin in his "Philosophical Notebooks". In general, the spiral, as the basis of the universe, is present in many esoteric teachings. And the task, in my understanding, remains the same - to see and count this spiral on charts.
Thank you for the valuable correction. Indeed, Hegel did not discover the SPIRAL of development. His transposition of the ancient concept that the world is ruled by two opposing but complementary forces that replace each other was called the spiral of development by Lenin in his "Philosophical Notebooks". In general, the spiral, as the basis of the universe, is present in many esoteric teachings. And the task, in my understanding, remains the same - to see and count this spiral on charts.
Who and how established the real (not in the head by inventing concepts) existence of this spiral?
And who discovered this spiral ? :)
And by what established facts (not words, theories and concepts) is the existence of this spiral confirmed ?
The spiral as a logos (idea, species) of development is seen from DNA from galaxies.
These particular cases were discovered by different people, for example, DNA - R.Franklin, spirality of galaxies - W.Parsons.
The merit of Hegel and Lenin is that they recognised the spiral movement as a universal, universal principle of development, i.e. a principle concerning the structure and evolution of any system - physical, social, economic.
Nowadays there are many approaches to the study of systems - general systems theory, control systems theory, tectology, diacoptics, systems analysis, etc.
Strangely enough, in none of them I have found fundamental, philosophical grounds for determining the basic postulates on which these theories are built. That is, the philosophical categories - struggle and unity of opposites, negation of negation, etc., if they are seen somewhere in the monographs, then in a very implicit pale form.
But this is a very big topic.
Going back to the graphs, imagine them as an unfolded phase space, superimpose spirals in the logos (spirit) of Hopf stratifications, and we get the result.
A good programmer is needed.
we represent them by the unfolded phase space, superpose spirals in the logos (spirit) of Hopf stratifications, and obtain the result.
You need a good programmer.
you need a good dealer :-)
it's much simpler. As TC hinted - there are only 2 fundamental things: discrete random walk and the problem of player's ruin. And cyclic nature of real processes (for some reason everyone dismisses it). Presence of feedbacks (in both directions and forwards and backwards). From there, the system of DM and heat maps of probabilities. All forget about discreteness, cyclicity and feedback (what we see in kotirs - there sometimes traces of consequences and causes change places, first we see the imprint of consequences and only then causes).
There will be no grail (for other reasons, but it is simply impossible), but probably something minimising stupidity. And I have to read all sorts of things about economics, including politics and history, and not just poke around in a graph shamanising with deep-learning.