The future of the Forex industry - page 27

 
transcendreamer:

I don't see the connection between stealing and giving up private property, really... Like they didn't steal 100 years ago? Or 1000 years ago?

They seem to be handing out stale stuff in the Dixie/Pyatto stores now... and soon socialists will be complaining about why they're handing out stale and not fresh food 🤣


If there is no private property, who will want to maintain it? Cities will fall into decay and rubbish will be everywhere.

In theory cyber-communism is of course possible if we reach a level of productivity that is fundamentally higher than all material human needs, like Gianni Rodari on the planet of Christmas trees, but it will only be temporary, because after a while we will discard the human form and our interests will be quite different, surely more ambitious.

On reflection, however, I am forced to abandon my original thesis that private property will eventually disappear as a concept. It is possible to imagine any particular class of things outside of this notion (to think of them as state, collective, social or public property, for example), but it is hard to imagine it being entirely devoid of content. It is probably the case that nature abhors a void.)

 
transcendreamer:

Fursov is known as 1. a fantasist and conspiracy theorist, 2. a socialist who gets a kick out of the Western model of society

so even though he's a strong historian it's impossible to take him seriously

and they have been repeating this mantra for years about the crisis of capitalism and that the west is about to collapse you just need to push it 🤣😃😄

What's also hilarious is that there's an integrated ad in the beginning of the video:"the best Soviet textbooks... acquire the link in the description..."

😆😅😄😃 no one has ever disparaged socialism so much!

Selling Soviet textbooks via conspiracy videos on the capitalist youtube platform.... class... 😁

 
vladavd:

But their salaries are already low, and there is nothing like that: janitors and cleaners are available, no one is drowning or suffocating in anything. To go and study and get a qualification, you need to have some resources, well banal to pay for training, to have a place to live and something to eat. If you do not have that, what kind of study is there? And if a man is 30 +, 40 +, and his education is nine grades with C's? The only thing left is to work for food, a vicious circle.

Near my house, by the container site for rubbish, a mountain of bags with rubbish has piled up. When containers overflow, people leave bags with rubbish next to them. The rubbish cans are mechanised and the rubbish truck driver is well paid, but they cannot find people for manual work, because they do not want to pay a decent wage.

 
transcendreamer:

What's also hilarious is that there's an integrated advert at the beginning of the video "the best Soviet textbooks... get the link in the description..."

😆😅😄😃 no one has ever disparaged socialism so much!

Selling Soviet textbooks via conspiracy videos on the capitalist youtube platform.... class... 😁

Evenmore hilarious to read about the free market.

 
khorosh:

Yes, there should be no egalitarianism, but the minimum wage should be such that all human needs are met while respecting the principle of reasonable sufficiency.

This is akin to saying that we should make all people happy! - Who would argue with that? - no one is against it... But resources and goods are always finite and needs are infinite, no objections at this stage? - and a finite number of goods must be distributed, some will get more and some will get less - attention is the question: what should be the principle of distribution? - Doesn't it seem obvious that those who contributed more should get more?

If the salaries of janitors and cleaners are miserable, all of them, as you suggest, will study and get a more qualified profession. But then the city will be covered in rubbish and waste, and the offices will be suffocating with dust.

They are not beggars, they are just beggars because the contribution of caretakers is the least, that's all ... and when a janitor wakes up and realizes that he has to move - then he will learn some subject and can take a better position - and in his place others will come who will become janitors - obviously - this is how the pyramid of ascent works.

 
Andrei Trukhanovich:

No, it's just that when the janitors become scarce, their wages will go up - it's as simple as that, or they'll be replaced by sweepers

That's a reasonable argument too! - the market situation will be such that the supply of wipers will become less and then it will move the wage upwards - this is the most obvious thing - which some people here can not realize, although they probably consider themselves traders 😁😀😉

So in the end the salaries of janitors are so low (compared to lawyers, economists, programmers) not because some villains are cutting their salaries - but because no one is willing to pay much for this low-skilled work...

 
vladavd:

But their salaries are already low, and there is nothing like that: janitors and cleaners are available, no one is drowning or suffocating in anything. To go and study and get a qualification, you need to have some resources, well banal to pay for training, to have a place to live and something to eat. If you do not have that, what kind of study is there? And if a man is 30 +, 40 +, and his education is nine grades with C's? The only thing left is to work for food, a vicious circle.

This is also an important argument, it is always harder to rise from the bottom, in fact for example there are benefits for students in all countries, even in those that are traditionally called "capitalist".

There is just one thing to say: encourage and help promising people while there is no point in helping anyone, and if a person has not achieved anything in 40 years except to wave a broom, then what is the point of investing in him at all? - A stupid waste of society's resources.

 
Evgeniy Chumakov:

1. Salaries and pensions should be decent.

2. Taxes should be fair.

3. education and medicine are free!?


No?

First of all, everyone understands that there is no such thing as free and quality, history has shown this clearly by the example of you know which country 🙂 .

Remember: Free doesn't mean actually free.

Funds are allocated from the total public product, someone has to create this product to make it free.

 
transcendreamer:

This is akin to saying: We need to make all people happy! - Who can argue with that? - no one is against it... But resources and goods are always finite, while needs are infinite, no objections at this stage? - and a finite number of goods must be distributed, some will get more and some will get less - heed the question: what should be the principle of distribution? - doesn't it seem obvious that those who have contributed more should get more?

They are not poor, they are just poorer than others because the contribution of caretakers is the least, that's all ... and when a janitor wakes up and realizes that he has to move - then he learns a topic and can take a better position - and in his place others will come who will become janitors - it is obvious - this is how the pyramid of ascent works.

Why break through the open door. I have written that there should be no equalization. The whole question is that the minimum wage should be decent. The wages of the rest should be multiplied by some coefficient, which everyone has their own. Only when the owner of the company takes the lion's share of the income, it is, of course, difficult to make the minimum wage decent.

 
khorosh:

Exactly.

The whole point of the socialist agenda: I want everything for free 🤣😁😂

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