Curious observation: further observation required - page 5

 
granit77:

Diger:
Let's not jump to conclusions. The question is very, very serious.

I suggest we wait for an official response from officials.

The answer from the administration is already received. It couldn't be more official.
Rosh:
coronel has been banned for an unfortunate joke.

Unfortunately, the topic goes far beyond the conventional notion of a "joke".

It is unlikely that the issue raised can even qualify as a "bad joke".

Things look like they are not unreasonably questionable and should, indeed, be answered by the meeting participants.

 

when the EA is initialised, it also loads....

and imagine you change timeframe, load the EA, and so many times.... DCs will have a pond or two of the same advisors...... )))))

this is bullshit... you can talk for 5 pages here...

 
IgorM:

Well, about MT4, the codes are not stolen, although mql4 decompilers are a dime a dozen, almost for every build, about MT5 have not arisen suspicions? ))))))))))

As for the sabotage - seriously, I think it is much easier for a brokerage company to deal with auto-trading than with a trader who trades with his hands - a trader is less predictable, he may check quotes/bars online from another source, and then he will make some noise in forums and post screenshots.

The question is not the theft of codes, although it can happen, but in the possibility for brokerage companies to abuse the obtained information about the codes of Expert Advisor and indicators, about the strategy in the code. What prevents the dealer from writing a program that will play exactly against your EA?
 
dmmikl86:

when the EA is initialised, it also loads....

and imagine you change the timeframe, load the EA, and so many times.... DCs will have a pond or two of the same advisors...... )))))

this is bullshit... you can talk for 5 pages here...

The question is not how many times the EA is downloaded-unloaded, but why is it happening on the DC server. And the question about pond-prudy begs the question WHY? Do you write it on purpose? Do you have nothing to occupy your time?
 
Diger:
The issue is not the theft of codes, although this is not excluded either, but the possibility of the DC abusing the information received about the EA's codes and indicators and the strategy embedded in the code. What prevents brokerage companies from writing a program that will play exactly against your EA?
For example, we open a buy, and the program turns it into a sell:)))
 
Diger:
The question is not about stealing codes, although it cannot be excluded, but in the possibility for brokerage companies to abuse the information about the codes of Expert Advisor and indicators, about the strategy inherent in the code. What prevents the dealer from writing a program that will play exactly against your EA?

or ***** a very profitable EA... or take a screenshot of a chart... or...

I would definitely consider it ))

You can ban
Or we may not.But you don't have to swear.

 
khorosh:
For example, we open a buy and the program turns it into a sell:)))

And wonderware monitors the price, "holds" it, and only when the price is impossible to hold on, because the price is stubbornly in your favor, allows the price to cross your target, your TP. And if price movements are weak, the program simply does not allow the price to cross your target, and waits until the price goes against you, and then releases.

Fantastic... But so real.

 
Diger:

And wonderware monitors the price, "holds" it, and only when the price is impossible to hold on, because the price is stubbornly in your favor, allows the price to cross your target, your TP. And if price movements are weak, the program simply does not allow the price to cross your target, and waits until the price goes against you, and then releases.

Fantastic... but so real.


And if someone has a stop where you have a take? What will a poor brokerage company do then?) And given that a brokerage house has hundreds and thousands of clients, how can they play against someone in particular?
 
Diger:

and only when the price cannot be held further because the price is steadily moving in your favour, allows the price to cross your target.

easy. in a minute, price can move as much as you want within a bar. you can take it into account in your strategy, but DT shows enough high, low once, so you can't fight back.

and then write the rest off to filters... I've seen it many times.

I don't know how they work and why they all are different... Although, that's a topic for a separate thread...

 
Diger:
The question is not about theft of codes, although it cannot be excluded, but in the possibility of DC abusing the information about Expert Advisor and indicator codes, about the strategy in the code. What prevents the dealer from writing a program that will play exactly against your EA?


If you use an indicator call, you can see the indicator calls in the log, it's not difficult to evaluate entries and exits. If there is a suspicion of peeping into your terminal, it means that you should exclude useful information from the logs. Not so long ago on the forum there were screenshots of WP when it synchronized its history with the terminal, WP was visually wrong, as well as with other indicators, because they always use several bars from the history to calculate a new value, the same Momentum needs 14 bars, change the 12-bar Close on the history, the EA may react and then restore the Close ....

But all this is "flowers", try to visually observe the price and logs Print("Bid = ",Bid) - I hope I'm wrong, but ....

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