Discussion of article "Grid and martingale: what are they and how to use them?" - page 4

 
Evgeniy Ilin:
Speaking of pyramiding, it's all the same, there are similarities with the grid, the grid also tries to eat up more movement, but in pyramiding and in the grid, you need to know the beginning of the impulse, in what direction is not important. It's all the same. You can just open two positions towards each other with short stop losses and distant profits, and the same thing will happen, only you will pay less spread than in a grid or pyramiding, and these are your grids and pyramiding, you just give more money to the broker and that's all.
"You can just open two positions with short stop losses and distant profits, and the same thing will happen...". "

Are you serious, writing such nonsense?
Probabilities negate such reasoning. Short stops will be triggered much more often than distant profits.
 
Heroix:
"You could just for that matter open two positions facing each other with short stop losses and distant profits, and the same thing would happen.... "

Are you serious, writing such nonsense?
Probabilities negate such reasoning. Short stops will trigger far more often than a distant profit.

Taken out of context."Short stops will work much more often than a far profit" - tell me the multiplication table.

 
Evgeniy Ilin:

Google has it all, you just have to be lazy to look for it. Pyramiding is the same eggs but in profile, as they say. I have enough experience to say that without even checking.

The "experience" of profanity is evident. That is why in the article about the net-martin - only about draining, and not a single reasonable thought about how to reduce the drawdown.

 
Sergey Lebedev:

The "experience" of profanity is evident. That is why in the article about the net-martin - only about draining, and not a single reasonable thought about how to reduce drawdown.

I don't understand where do you get such clever people from? To reduce drawdown you need to find a good signal first. There are reasonable thoughts, who wants to see will see and read them. You have not understood anything from the article and why it was written at all. If you are too lazy to read and understand it carefully, especially since there is not much to read here at all. No one will lay out their grails on a platter for you here. One smart guy told me that what you write about martin and netting is a drain, I wrote an article about netting and martin, the next smart guy is not satisfied that I wrote the truth. DDD

 
Evgeniy Ilin:

I don't understand where do you get such clever people from? To reduce the drawdown you need to find a good signal first. There are reasonable thoughts in general, who wants to see will see and read. You have not understood anything from the article and why it was written at all. If you are too lazy to read and understand it carefully, especially since there is not much to read here at all. No one will lay out their grails on a platter for you here. One smart guy told me that what you write about martin and netting is a drain, I wrote an article about netting and martin, the next smart guy is not satisfied that I wrote the truth. DDD

It is very difficult to call this opus an article. DDD

 

Martingale: Lot = k * Lot. As a result Depo = n(k) * Depo.

Grid: Lot = ksum * Lot, where ksum = k1+ k2+ k3+ ... ,ki are the grid levels. As a result Depo = n(ksum) * Depo.

Changing k from 0 to the value that the deposit and broker allows, we watch how Depo changes and draw conclusions accordingly to the state of our wallet and readiness to risk.

That's the whole article with a title like the author's. Even EXCEL is not needed - a notebook in a cell is enough. But the author went the other way: "why do simple when you can do complicated". The question is WHY... -)

 
Mikhail Dovbakh:

To call this opus an article is very difficult. DDD

Another Gordon Freeman. You are outraged without knowing what you want. Not a single comment on the essence of the question. You don't even understand what the article is about, even though it is written in the simplest terms.

 
Roman Kovalchuk:

Martingale: Lot = k * Lot. As a result Depo = n(k) * Depo.

Grid: Lot = ksum * Lot, where ksum = k1+ k2+ k3+ ... ,ki are grid levels. As a result Depo = n(ksum) * Depo.

Changing k from 0 to the value that the deposit and broker allows, we watch how Depo changes and draw conclusions accordingly to the state of our wallet and readiness to risk.

That's the whole article with a title like the author's. Even EXCEL is not needed - a notebook in a cell is enough. But the author went the other way: "why do simple when you can do complicated". The question is WHY... -)

With all due respect, you also have not understood anything about why the article was written. It's much simpler than I made it. Here tell me what is the ultimate purpose of the article in your opinion ? From this we should start from. It is clear that most people have practical experience in applying these algorithms. All you're doing now is just saying, "I know everything." Like I know it all and I've been through it all. I still counted on a more inquisitive audience, not showing off.

 
I'll make it simple. I will ask if there are those who did not understand the purpose of the article and would like to understand? Or who understood but did not write anything or point out the flaws? You can write in person or here, it doesn't matter. I'll explain everything.
 
Evgeniy Ilin:

With all due respect, you also didn't understand anything about why the article was written. It's a lot simpler than I made it. Tell me, what is the ultimate goal of the article in your opinion? That's where we should start. It is clear that most people have practical experience in applying these algorithms. All you're doing now is just saying, "I know everything." Like I know it all and I've been through it all. I still counted on a more inquisitive audience, not showing off.

It's just that your first article was over the top, and this one was expected.

and plus the topic is "slippery" - everyone here considers himself an expert in martingales and grids :-))

so there are plenty of haters.

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perhaps you should have shown the similarity to the identity of "nets", "martingale" and "pyramiding". And that these techniques work only in the presence of a trading signal, without it they are all a gift to DC.
But then the article would go away from the side of mathematics - but so just a practical review.