Simulate the situation. If 1,000 people were forced to trade amongst themselves, how would the graph behave? - page 8

 
multiplicator:
but on a cryptocurrency exchange?

cryptocurrency has real value? don't be ridiculous)

ok, it's your private opinion that crypto has value.

That's a subject for another thread.

Of course a coin has a cost, I have experience in mining and selling on the exchange the results of mining. There are coins for which you can buy a product or service.

Maybe you mean virtual crypto DCs that only broadcast and draw quotes? By the way, the rate is also affected by withdrawal costs, since crypto has no brokers and the exchange keeps a deposit, and for these reasons the prices on crypto exchanges may be different.

 
Andrey Gladyshev:

And at the end everyone will sit in a glass and wait)

someone will buy
 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

Let's say you have roubles, only USD/RUB(USD_TOM) is traded, how do you propose to sell? The mechanisms of the kitchens are clear, but in fact you need to borrow dollars against rubles and pay interest on the loan... And who would lend an asset in a simulated situation - the stock exchange? The broker can't, he doesn't yet have the asset as well as other participants in the model. And then, usually someone else's assets are lent (clients' assets on paper - you have to specifically write a waiver to avoid doing so).

And how do stocks get shorted when they don't exist? The mechanism with currencies is similar. But I don't know if you can short USD/RUB(USD_TOM)

 
Dmitry Fedoseev:

Exchange rubles for dollars and buy rubles. It is essentially the same as buying dollars with the rubles you have - the profit will change according to the exchange rate, but with a different sign. That is, one way - buying, the other - selling. It is OK.

You must agree that this operation is meaningless. After this conversion, you will lose money on spread and commission. In Forex, the leverage will be given and due to it there will be a virtual increase in funds when selling the pair. That's why one has to decide on the leverage as well.

 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

Of course a coin has a cost, I have experience in mining and selling on the exchange the results of mining. There are coins for which you can buy a product or service.

Maybe you mean virtual crypto DCs that only broadcast and draw quotes? By the way, the rate is also affected by the cost of withdrawal from the exchange, since crypto has no brokers and the exchange holds a deposit, and for these reasons the prices on the crypto exchanges can be different.

it has a cost. but it has no real value.

why would anyone want your bits, in your computer? and the virtual units some program has generated.

Who will need your crypto-currency?

without the money invested in the marketplace, no one will ever know about it.


that's debatable.

let's not talk about it in this thread.
 
Maxim Romanov:

and how do stocks get shorted in their absence? The mechanism with currencies is similar. But I don't know if USD/RUB(USD_TOM) can be shorted

Shorting takes place through repo, by borrowing shares at interest, and usually only liquid instruments are allowed to be shorted by the broker.

 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

You must agree that this operation makes no sense, after such a conversion there will be losses on spread and commission. In Forex the leverage will be given and due to it there will be a virtual increase in funds when selling a pair. That's why we have to decide on the leverage as well.

You may or may not make sense, but such operations are performed on stock exchanges.

You can only sell it back to someone else.
 
multiplicator:
The cost has. but the real value doesn't.

Why would anyone want your bits in your computer? and virtual units that some program has generated.

Who needs your crypto-currency?

without the money invested in the marketplace, no one will ever know about it.


that's debatable.

let's not talk about it in this thread.

The point is that crypto is an intangible asset and people invest in management and infrastructure (websites, software). The exchange conducts conditional clearing and the cryptocurrencies end up in your wallet. There is a real movement of coins going on.

What I'm saying is, you have to really understand what's going to be traded, decide exactly what the terms are.

 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

You must agree that this operation makes no sense, after such a conversion there will be losses on spread and commission. In Forex the leverage will be given and due to it there will be a virtual increase in funds when selling a pair. That's why we have to decide on the leverage as well.

Why is it senseless? That's the point of speculation - the possibility of making profit on price movements. You don't have to decide on the leverage, if your appetite is moderate.

 
Aleksey Vyazmikin:

Shorting is done through repo, by borrowing shares at interest, and usually only liquid instruments are allowed to be shorted by the broker.

you really can't imagine trading a non-existent instrument.

there were such scams on the american fund when the company didn't really exist, but its shares were traded on the exchange.

But we are digressing from the subject.
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