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Andrey Gladyshev:

"Get to the root of it. Start with the small details.

Well, let's get started:

imagine an experiment like this.

They decided to do a study. They gave out $100 each to a thousand people. They set up their broker, set up a trading terminal and told everyone "start trading".

You could put orders in the market. You could open deals on the market.

(financial instrument - virtual)

How doyou thinka chart will behave in such a study?

And how will it end?


After a while the big ones and everyone else will be left in this game, where do we need to look first ?

apr73:

Well let's get started:

imagine an experiment like this.

They decided to do a research. They gave out $100 to a thousand people. they created their own broker, installed an exchange terminal and told everybody, "start trading.

You could put orders in the market. You could open deals on the market.

(financial instrument - virtual)

How doyou thinka chart will behave in such a study?

And how will it end?


After a while the big ones and everyone else will be left in this game, where do you need to look first ?

There is a real glass. You have to be first in the cup to be satisfied.
Let's bring the situation to a point where the spread has narrowed and the best prices are on adjacent levels.
There are already bids at both levels.
And to start with you need to stop your game on the victim side of the market.
Also, you need to understand the elementary mechanism of order execution in the exchange.

Now imagine that you have more funds as well as opportunities to place your orders.
And then it's like in "The Matrix". I can show you the door, but you have to open it yourself.

I've been digesting this for two years, I've got my own issues in my head. So you're gonna have to make friends with yours, too.

Andrey Gladyshev:

I've been digesting this for two years, I've got my own issues in my head. So you'll have to make friends with your own.

I hear you. Thank you. (chuckles)

Unfortunately, you don't understand the doors I want to open.

apr73:

I hear you. Thank you.

Unfortunately, you don't understand the doors I want to open.

Then you must be at the wrong doors.

Andrey Gladyshev:

Then you must be at the wrong doors.

Quite right, I'm already at others.

apr73:

Absolutely right, I'm already at the others'.

Have you opened it?

Andrey Gladyshev:

Have you opened them?

If they had, I wouldn't be writing here.

Andrey Gladyshev:
I'll add.
Perhaps something that is simply incomprehensible is easier to call something abstract. Noise, for example.
That is precisely the point. There are very few people who make money on the market, it means that noise is something incomprehensible for all, and when speaking about noise people do not put any concept or meaning in this word. To speak about noise is meaningless without application. There is no noise in the market for me. There is a minimal possible movement which one can earn. This movement is determined by the commission, the spread, the algorithm's probability of a profitable trade, and the ratio of a profitable to unprofitable trade in each case, based on the algorithm's specifics.
The only thing that could be is sampling noise due to the temporal sampling of the signal, which has no time in its nature. But even that has to be proven first before it can be asserted.
apr73:

These chains will build up into structures.

This is what happens. From elementary patterns of fear and greed, a stable fractal structure emerges on any market chart.

Wizard2018:

It goes like this. Out of the elementary patterns of fear and greed, a stable fractal structure emerges on any market charts.

Thank you for your reply. Your opinion is very important to me.

I'm also grateful for the literature you keep sending me.

I reread it several times.

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