Discussion of article "Developing a self-adapting algorithm (Part II): Improving efficiency" - page 2

 
Олег avtomat:

1) The point of the question was, why do you need such a huge number of settings? This number is clearly excessive. And who will understand them? Who will be able to understand them? Not superficially, but thoroughly. Can you do it?

2) Please. Same with the adaptive system.

This algorithm was created not only for trading, but also for research. Trading is supported on 28 instruments simultaneously, so there are no more than 83 settings in one instrument. You need all these settings to understand how this or that mode works. I am naturally thoroughly versed in the settings, I created it. And this is not the most complicated thing I created. I don't know who will understand it, if a person is interested, he will probably get into it. And if he doesn't get into it, then it's not interesting at all. For those who don't want to get into it, the article briefly describes the modes of operation, their meaning and result.

Look, this is an algorithm that makes money... no, it's too complicated to understand, we need something simpler)))

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Maxim Romanov:

This algorithm was created not only for trading, but also for research. Trading is supported on 28 instruments simultaneously, so there are no more than 83 settings in one instrument. You need all these settings to understand how this or that mode works. I am naturally thoroughly versed in the settings, I created it. And this is not the most complicated thing I created. I don't know who will understand it, if a person is interested, he will probably get into it. And if he doesn't get into it, then it's not interesting at all. For those who do not want to understand, the article briefly describes the modes of operation, their meaning and results.

Look, this is an algorithm that makes money... no, it's too complicated to understand, we need something simpler)))

I understand this irony of yours. Moreover, I always insist that to understand how to solve a problem, you have to understand the problem.

But 83 settings on 1 instrument -- that's a lot. Most likely, the vast majority of these settings do not do anything useful in terms of optimisation and should just be fixed.

There is a certain threshold, beyond which quantity turns into quality, beyond which there is a threshold, beyond which there is a reverse process that changes "reality", beyond which there is a threshold again, and again, and so on. This rule works everywhere and always.

I wish you success.

 
Maxim Romanov:

This algorithm was created not only for trading, but also for research. Trading is supported on 28 instruments simultaneously, so there are no more than 83 settings in one instrument. You need all these settings to understand how this or that mode works. I am naturally thoroughly versed in the settings, I created it. And this is not the most complicated thing I created. I don't know who will understand it, if a person is interested, he will probably get into it. And if he doesn't get into it, then it's not interesting at all. For those who do not want to understand, the article briefly describes the modes of operation, their meaning and results.

Look, this is an algorithm that makes money... no, it's too complicated to understand, we need something simpler)))

Even in a nuclear power plant there are about 30 settings)))) If you identify the significant ones for research and then work on the significant settings, then yes, but in the working version it is too many, it is difficult to work.

 
Олег avtomat:

I understand your irony. Moreover, I always insist that in order to understand how to solve a problem, one must understand the essence of the problem.

But 83 settings for 1 instrument is a lot. Most likely, the overwhelming number of these settings do not do anything useful in terms of optimisation, and should just be fixed.

There is a certain threshold, beyond which quantity turns into quality, beyond which there is a threshold, beyond which there is a reverse process that changes "reality", beyond which there is a threshold again, and again, and so on. This rule works everywhere and always.

I wish you success.

yes, of course, I have looked at how the different modes work and when optimising for real work about 10 settings are used. But I didn't feel like deleting them. Thanks for the wish). Maybe it will even be useful to someone, maybe not.

 
Maxim Romanov:

Yes, of course, I looked at how the different modes work and when optimised for real work about 10 settings are used. But I didn't feel like deleting them. Thanks for the wish). Maybe it will even be useful for someone, maybe not.

Sometimes I look through kodobase, so if there are more than 10 settings in the programme (not taking into account lot, magic and slippage) - in the trash at once.

 
Vitaly Muzichenko:

Sometimes I look through kodobase, so if the programme has more than 10 settings (not taking into account lot, magic and slippage) - in the trash at once.

why?

 
Maxim Romanov:

why?

Because there is a lot of rubbish written and posted, if there are few settings, you can quickly figure it out, realise that it is rubbish and forget about it.

But if there are a lot of settings, you can't do it quickly, and in your subconscious mind, based on your previous experience, there is a belief that it's also rubbish and you shouldn't waste your time on it at all. IMHO.

Personally, I am waiting for the promised one for MT5, as I understand MQL4, but not very well, like a Russian reading a book in Ukrainian, it seems clear, but not everything.

Then I will start to understand it, because the ideas that you have posted here are very much to my liking :)

 
Aleksandr Slavskii:

Because there is a lot of rubbish written and posted, if there are few settings, you can quickly figure it out, realise that it's rubbish and forget it.

But if there are a lot of settings, you can't do it quickly, and in your subconscious mind, based on your previous experience, you are convinced that it is also rubbish and you shouldn't waste your time on it at all. IMHO.

Personally, I am waiting for the promised one for MT5, as I understand MQL4, but not very well, like a Russian reading a book in Ukrainian, it seems clear, but not everything.

That's when I'll get to know it, because the ideas that you have laid out here are very much to my liking :)

In kodobaza I would not put such a thing at all. But it worked out on real accounts, I don't use it anymore, so I decided to share it. There are a lot of settings.... So I made it for myself, for trading, I needed it all. I did not dare to use it for a long time, I know what it can do, but I decided not to be greedy.
 
In a final, polished product there should be a minimum of settings. But in an experimental one you usually start with a large number, gradually understand the interrelationships, optimise or fix many parameters. In the last indicator I made 2 parameters out of 4. And in kodobase there is just the code for experiments.
 
Maxim Romanov:

Yes, of course, I looked at how the different modes work and when optimised for real work about 10 settings are used. But I didn't feel like deleting them. Thanks for the wish). Maybe it will even be useful for someone, maybe not.

It's interesting to see how the meaningful settings were selected. That's a whole topic.