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Writing another"standard library" might be useful. Especially if it will work smoothly in different trading environments (so far there are doubts about this, because such solutions appear as a result of many years of practical use, while here everything is written from scratch).
But it will be possible to evaluate this benefit only when the final article (or a series of articles?) with examples of use and documentation is released.
And who are all these pages for?
For those who want to learn how to program? Doubtful. Concise practical problems would be more useful than two-page enums.
For someone looking for a ready-made function? I don't see how it can be found there, and many people are in the state of "it will be further developed to make everything ok".
For the author himself, to systematise and understand the subject thoroughly? Then why publish?
Honestly read the first few articles of the series, constantly wondering "why all this?". It's pathetic to even scroll through now. There's very little chance of finding even a modicum of usefulness.
ps: no, I have invented a usefulness: when searching for the peculiarities of using this or that function, you will find a detailed and chewed explanation (which is not available in the documentation and on the forum). So someone will find it useful, just like Godzilla codes.
Writing another"standard library" might be useful. Especially if it will work smoothly in different trading environments (so far there are doubts about it, because such solutions appear as a result of many years of practical use, while here everything is written from scratch).
But it will be possible to evaluate this benefit only when the final article (or a series of articles?) with examples of use and documentation is published.
And who are all these pages for?
For those who want to learn how to program? Doubtful. Concise practical problems would be more useful than two-page enums.
For someone looking for a ready-made function? I don't see how it can be found there, and many people are in the state of "it will be further developed to make everything ok".
For the author himself, to systematise and understand the subject thoroughly? Then why publish it?
Honestly read the first few articles of the series, constantly wondering "why all this?". It's pathetic to even scroll through now. There is very little chance of finding even a modicum of usefulness.
ps: no, I've thought of a benefit: when searching for peculiarities of using this or that function, you will find a detailed and chewed explanation (which is not available in the documentation and on the forum). So someone will find it useful, just like Godzilla codes.
Andrey, thank you for your opinion.
But not everyone here is a "burned-out" coder, burnt in the battles in the field. And don't forget that the forum consists not only of those who don't need anything anymore. But there are also people here who want to learn something new. Why not help? It's not hard for me to share.
About "from scratch" - these codes, yes, are written practically from scratch, but... A lot of things have been done before, debugged and worked. And there were four versions - this is the fifth. But there were moments that I didn't like in the organisation of the structure. That's why the basic structure was reworked and debugged. And then - everything is simply written anew according to the "written" and told in articles. I often notice things that could be done better during the preparation, so I redo them and put them into the articles. And both immediately during the preparation of the next article and afterwards - I just make changes and talk about them, or do not talk about them - if they are my spelling, punctuation or other small mistakes.
Naturally, no one is immune to mistakes. But the basic concept is the same for all classes of the library - storage of objects, their selection, search and sorting. And the rest is built up taking into account peculiarities of languages and their functions.
About usefulness/uselessness - it is impossible to please everyone. But there are certain layers of resource participants who are interested. And people ask. And whoever wants to learn can learn.
But there is an interesting principle in learning - just start using ready-made things first (if you don't understand - ask how), and then you will understand how it works (not about you, just abstractly). And that's where the article is helpful - it says it all. I.e., the learning process is not from the beginning, but (strangely enough) from the end.
And when it ends, there will be a lot of examples of use and detailed documentation. After all, in order to use it, it is not necessary to know the "guts" thoroughly. Although it is interesting (for me, for example) of course.
There are very few chances to find even a grain of usefulness
It depends on what a person considers useful. For someone it is useful to turn three-storey formulas outwards, for someone it is useful to find out how to do something else with the Mashka, and for someone just to lie in the sun ;).
Everything is relative.
But any opinion is important to me - thank you.
Writing another"standard library" might be useful. Especially if it will work smoothly in different trading environments (so far there are doubts about it, because such solutions appear as a result of many years of practical use, while here everything is written from scratch).
But it will be possible to evaluate this benefit only when the final article (or a series of articles?) with examples of use and documentation is published.
And who are all these pages for?
For those who want to learn how to program? Doubtful. Concise practical problems would be more useful than two-page enums.
For someone looking for a ready-made function? I don't see how it can be found there, and many people are in the state of "it will be further developed to make everything ok".
For the author himself, to systematise and understand the subject thoroughly? Then why publish it?
Honestly read the first few articles of the series, constantly wondering "why all this?". It's pathetic to even scroll through now. There is very little chance of finding even a modicum of usefulness.
ps: no, I've thought of a benefit: when searching for peculiarities of using this or that function, you will find a detailed and chewed explanation (which is not available in the documentation and on the forum). So someone will find it useful, just like Godzilla codes.
Andrei, you are missing the main point. Until now, all MQL objects were passive - they only received and displayed information. Today we see Artem's attempt to create the first active object, a source of information. This is the beginning of a revolution, tomorrow there will be toys where symbols will run on the field and users will shoot at them. A joke, of course, but there is a joke in it.
Andrei, you are missing the main point. Until now, all MQL objects were passive - they only received and displayed information. Today we see Artem's attempt to create the first active object, a source of information. This is the beginning of a revolution, tomorrow there will be toys where symbols will run on the field and users will shoot at them. A joke, of course, but there is a joke in it.
Alexei, it is sometimes difficult to understand what you mean. But about interactivity, which, of course, is planned and will be - true. But there is no need to chase symbols across the field. Everything is done for the practical use of those who are interested, and assumes to use - not pulling and dragging pieces, but the whole, as it will be one "organism", where everything is interconnected, and in which I will try to combine the most useful and easy to use, but long in independent creation. I just want to make someone's life easier ;)
Alexei, it is sometimes difficult to understand what you mean. But about interactivity, which, of course, is planned and will be - right. But there's no need to chase symbols around the field. Everything is done for the practical use of those who are interested, and assumes to use - not pulling and dragging pieces, but the whole, as it will be one "organism", where everything is interconnected, and in which I will try to combine the most useful and easy to use, but long in independent creation. I just want to make someone's life easier ;)
You'll be surprised in a year how many ways there are to use your approach.
Personally, I'm on your side.And where is the start and end time of the quote session, trading session, number of sessions per symbol taken into account?
I didn't understand the question.
However, read it:
You'll be surprised in a year how many ways there are to use your approach.
Personally, I'm on your side.Good. It'll be interesting to watch and be surprised
Artem, I would like to express my gratitude for your labour!
I really use your library!
First of all, in the course of studying the material, I have become much closer to the classes, I have learnt a lot of useful information, as the material is presented in a comprehensive way.
Secondly, thanks for a lot of developments on trading events management, quick access and order list management. This is what is needed and in my opinion the most relevant for position trading strategies at the moment.
Sometimes I think you are doing the Grail )), and I am afraid that everyone will start using it and again the market will change and strategies will stop working ))).
At the same time, I read the comments and see that Peeple has not yet reached the realisation of the power of such a development )), you are ahead of the time )), everything is OK.
Keep up the good work, good luck further, once again, THANK YOU for the actual material!
Artem, I would like to express my gratitude for your labour!
I really use your library!
First of all, in the course of studying the material, the classes became closer to me, I have learnt a lot of useful information, as the material is presented in a comprehensive way.
Secondly, thanks for a lot of developments on trading events management, quick access and order list management. This is what is needed and at the moment, in my opinion, the most relevant for position trading strategies.
Sometimes I think you are doing the Grail )), and I am afraid that everyone will start using it and again the market will change and strategies will stop working ))).
At the same time, I read the comments and see that Peeple has not yet reached the realisation of the power of such a development )), you are ahead of time )), everything is OK.
Keep up the good work, good luck further, once again, THANK YOU for the actual material!
Thank you. There is a lot more to come :)
I didn't set a goal to chase shadows (about the Grail - it's not here, and the market won't change because of it), but to give a tool for easy creativity - that's yes. That is the goal I set, and I will pursue it to the end.