microgeo: Hi all, experienced people, please tell me what is deposit loading! How many per cent to choose for correct copying!? Thank you!
Study this, so that then do not blame anyone.
Funds management or how to choose the volume of a deal?
The question of how the subscriber's deposit will participate in trading on signals is one of the most important. When solving this problem, we were guided by the same rule as when working on the whole service - maximum protection for each participant of the process. As a result, we can offer a solution that is safe enough for subscribers.
When switching on signals in the terminal and subscribing to one of them, the subscriber has to choose which part of the deposit to allocate for the signals. The alternative was the system of setting the proportion between the position volume of the provider and the subscriber. However, such a system could not ensure safety of the subscriber's deposit. For example, the Provider's deposit is $30 000 and the Subscriber's is $10 000 and the volume proportion 1:1 was chosen. In a situation when the provider would simply wait out losses with a sufficiently large order volume, the subscriber could lose all the money and close at a stopout. Even worse is the situation when the supplier's balance changes unexpectedly (account top-up or withdrawal) while maintaining the previously set volume ratio.
To avoid this, a system of percentage allocation of a part of the deposit, which is given to trading on signals, was chosen. This system is rather complicated technically, as it takes into account deposit currencies, their conversion and leverage.
Let's consider the work of the volume management system on the example:
Calculation of the ratio of the Provider's and Subscribers' transaction volumes:
Balance ratio taking into account the deposit utilisation percentage: Subscriber1: (40,000 * 0.5) / 15,000 = 1.3333 (133.33%) Subscriber2: (5,000 * 0.35) / 15,000 = 0.1166 (11.66%)
After correction for leverage: Subscriber1: Subscriber1's leverage (1:200) is greater than the Provider's (1:100), so no correction for leverage Subscriber2: 0.1166 * (50 / 100) = 0.0583 (5.83%)
After correction for exchange rate of deposits at the moment of calculation: Subscriber1: 1,3333 * 1,2700 = 1,6933 (169.33%) Subscriber2: 0,0583 * 1,2700 = 0,0741 (7.41%)
Final percentage after rounding (rounding is done on a staggered basis): Subscriber1: 160% or a factor of 1.6 Subscriber2: 7% or a factorof0.07
Thus, under these conditions, the Provider's transaction of 1 lot will be copied:
- in the account of Subscriber1 in the amount of 160% - a volume of 1.6 lots
- on the account of Subscriber2 in the amount of 7% - in the volume of 0.07 lots.
Be careful not to confuse the percentage of deposit utilisation with the real ratio of transaction volume. In the trading terminal, the percentage of deposit utilisation is set, from which the ratio of transaction volume is calculated. This information is necessarily written to the log and in our example will look like this:
Subscriber1:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277190': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 160%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277190': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:100; subscriber has balance 40 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:200
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277190': money management: use 50% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
Subscriber2:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277191': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 7%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277191': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:50; subscriber has balance 5 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:50
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277191': money management: use 35% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
I use MT4 and received this message from your side:
" Signal subscription cancelled: Subscription to "GNI FOREX" on 28.11.2016-28.12.2016 has been cancelled, signal disabled, payment of 20.00 USD refunded.( time :2016.12.02 16:51) "
but I haven't recieved any refund not only for this case but also for previous cancelling. could you please inform and lead me in this regards.
another case:
"Signal subscription cancelled:Subscription to "New Stable Forex Profit" on 30.10.2016-30.11.2016 has been cancelled, signal disabled, payment of 20.00 USD refunded.(time: 2016.11.23 16:47) "
Is simply inadvertent clicking in the "copy trade" window would mean automatic charging of the account? I cannot found "enable" window. I am canceling that "copy trades"! Signal subscription cancelled!
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Can anyone tell me if it is possible to subscribe to free signals if you have a demo account and if possible how?
You can subscribe to a free signal from a demo account. You can subscribe directly from your terminal or from the Showcase.
It is strongly recommended to study the help before subscribing:
in the terminal:
in the Help: How to subscribe to a signal - Trading Signals and Copying Trades
Free signals can be copied only on demo accounts or on any accounts?
Free signals can be copied only to demo accounts or to any accounts?
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Hi all, experienced people, please tell me what is deposit loading! How many per cent to choose for correct copying!? Thank you!
Study this, so that then do not blame anyone.
Funds management or how to choose the volume of a deal?
The question of how the subscriber's deposit will participate in trading on signals is one of the most important. When solving this problem, we were guided by the same rule as when working on the whole service - maximum protection for each participant of the process. As a result, we can offer a solution that is safe enough for subscribers.
When switching on signals in the terminal and subscribing to one of them, the subscriber has to choose which part of the deposit to allocate for the signals. The alternative was the system of setting the proportion between the position volume of the provider and the subscriber. However, such a system could not ensure safety of the subscriber's deposit. For example, the Provider's deposit is $30 000 and the Subscriber's is $10 000 and the volume proportion 1:1 was chosen. In a situation when the provider would simply wait out losses with a sufficiently large order volume, the subscriber could lose all the money and close at a stopout. Even worse is the situation when the supplier's balance changes unexpectedly (account top-up or withdrawal) while maintaining the previously set volume ratio.
To avoid this, a system of percentage allocation of a part of the deposit, which is given to trading on signals, was chosen. This system is rather complicated technically, as it takes into account deposit currencies, their conversion and leverage.
Let's consider the work of the volume management system on the example:
Calculation of the ratio of the Provider's and Subscribers' transaction volumes:
Subscriber1: (40,000 * 0.5) / 15,000 = 1.3333 (133.33%)
Subscriber2: (5,000 * 0.35) / 15,000 = 0.1166 (11.66%)
Subscriber1: Subscriber1's leverage (1:200) is greater than the Provider's (1:100), so no correction for leverage
Subscriber2: 0.1166 * (50 / 100) = 0.0583 (5.83%)
Subscriber1: 1,3333 * 1,2700 = 1,6933 (169.33%)
Subscriber2: 0,0583 * 1,2700 = 0,0741 (7.41%)
Subscriber1: 160% or a factor of 1.6
Subscriber2: 7% or a factorof0.07
Thus, under these conditions, the Provider's transaction of 1 lot will be copied:
- in the account of Subscriber1 in the amount of 160% - a volume of 1.6 lots- on the account of Subscriber2 in the amount of 7% - in the volume of 0.07 lots.
Be careful not to confuse the percentage of deposit utilisation with the real ratio of transaction volume. In the trading terminal, the percentage of deposit utilisation is set, from which the ratio of transaction volume is calculated. This information is necessarily written to the log and in our example will look like this:
Subscriber1:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277190': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 160%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277190': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:100; subscriber has balance 40 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:200
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277190': money management: use 50% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
Subscriber2:
2012.11.12 13:33:23 Signal '1277191': percentage for volume conversion selected according to the ratio of balances and leverages, new value 7%
2012.11.12 13:27:55 Signal '1277191': signal provider has balance 15 000.00 USD, leverage 1:50; subscriber has balance 5 000.00 EUR, leverage 1:50
2012.11.12 13:27:54 Signal '1277191': money management: use 35% of deposit, equity limit: 0.00 EUR, deviation/slippage: 1.0 spreads
Dear my friend
I use MT4 and received this message from your side:
" Signal subscription cancelled: Subscription to "GNI FOREX" on 28.11.2016-28.12.2016 has been cancelled, signal disabled, payment of 20.00 USD refunded.( time :2016.12.02 16:51) "
but I haven't recieved any refund not only for this case but also for previous cancelling. could you please inform and lead me in this regards.
another case:
"Signal subscription cancelled:Subscription to "New Stable Forex Profit" on 30.10.2016-30.11.2016 has been cancelled, signal disabled, payment of 20.00 USD refunded.(time: 2016.11.23 16:47) "
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