evillive: He was recently banned, which probably makes you wonder a bit, even without statistics. And monstrous slippage and obscenely large deposit, too. Well, those who have nevertheless logged in, are their own enemies, then ))))
They should have been banned straight away, just by looking at the broker.
Всего сигналов: 906
Всего подписчиков: 4232
Суммарно они платят: $47062.05Сумма всех средства подписчиков: $5660240
Subscriber funds - cumulative funds of only real accounts within the risks used. So, we see that Signals handles an amount of $5.5M. Whether this is a lot or a little, I don't know. We have to compare it with competitors, but it would not be correct to do so here. I think that the amount is exaggerated in fact, because developers do not yet know how to clearly separate flies from cutlets (real and demo). So that some kind of demo-funks are definitely accounted for there. But the order, I think, is clear.
Distribution of subscribers' funds on broker-source locations is as follows (broker - funds):
RoboTrade Ltd. 2536678.00
International Capital Markets Pty Ltd. 672100.00
Profit Large Trading Limited 218000.00
InstaForex Companies Group 188155.00
TusarFX 186000.00
Alpari Limited 180051.00
E-Global Trade and Finance Group, Inc. 160014.00
FXOpen Investments Inc. 131875.00
GKFX FX/CFDs 128000.00
ServiceCom Ltd. 96500.00
I Securities Global Ltd. 88000.00
Planet Group International Holdings Limited 84300.00
Admiral Markets AS 82165.00
Straighthold Investment Group, Inc. 70363.00
ForexTime Ltd. 68985.00
Fort Financial Services Ltd. 65573.00
ALPEN ASSET MANAGEMENT TRUST SARL 62016.00
GSM Group 53000.00
Results below $50K have not been inserted.
I am not so good at visualization. Maybe, I should just write general CSV-file and put it here. Who understands Excel and wants to visualize - write how to do it, I will do it.
And finally, top ranking by subscribers (see Funds):
The average subscriber has ~$3-4K, of which they are willing to pay ~1% monthly for the service.
Many don't care about drawdown readings (there are > 90%). The main thing is the smoothness of the balance curve.
Many popular signals have overdrawers - no negative trades.
Almost all popular signals are on cent accounts.
Almost all popular signals are from the territories of the FSU and SE Asia: Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. Apparently, trading and similar schemes flourish where the average income level is low.
In general, the impression is that the signal owners use the service for a short-term scam.
One use case:
to make several overdrawers and averagers.
For each of them they should get their own accounts and register them to signals on centlinks.
Some of them will be lost, but some will show excellent results.
Expect from the latter one profits from paid subscriptions.
You can also use different tricks in the technical imperfection of centoviks to create the impression of graality. For example, arbitrage of any kind, etc.
And marketing obviously has a great influence. And its stupidity is not important. The main thing is mass distribution.
In short, all the laws of business apply here too.
The service is indeed used by part of the suppliers to defraud. But there are also normal managers.
There is some strategic error in this service. They saw a successful scheme, a pamm scheme, and are trying to copy it one-to-one. No, on the one hand it is certainly true that many cloners are more successful than the original, but why do not you see the unique features and capabilities of the service? The opportunities for development here are gigantic, but the meta-quotes don't catch mice, at all. Damn, such business development opportunities are lost :)
But there are some unlucky ones, too. This guy, for example, fits many of the conclusions, but no subscribers so far. What could be the reason for that - I don't understand.
It is easy to extract the history of any signal and make standard History-Signal.Order*-methods - analogous to OrderOpenPrice, OrderCloseTime, etc. After that, any indicator-visualizer of the history will show the trading history of the signal on the fly. I don't bother to write it, because I don't see the usefulness of such a feature for me yet.
lob32371: After sorting by length of trade I found almost an HFT-nik... While I'm banned, there's no history to see.
What a high-frequency trader, 19 trades in 5 months, and both signals are repeated...
And he also likes to make deposits without warning, which is not good for the client, as his account is not automatically replenished.
lob32371: But there are some unlucky ones out there. This guy, for example, fits many of the conclusions, but no subscribers so far. What could be the reason for that, I don't understand.
He is still ahead of the curve, he has been trading for only three weeks but he already has two new trades and will have more if he survives. It's bad that he closes his deals late and doesn't take all he could.
He was recently banned, which probably makes you wonder a bit, even without statistics. And monstrous slippage and obscenely large deposit, too. Well, those who have nevertheless logged in, are their own enemies, then ))))
New data:
Subscriber funds - cumulative funds of only real accounts within the risks used. So, we see that Signals handles an amount of $5.5M. Whether this is a lot or a little, I don't know. We have to compare it with competitors, but it would not be correct to do so here. I think that the amount is exaggerated in fact, because developers do not yet know how to clearly separate flies from cutlets (real and demo). So that some kind of demo-funks are definitely accounted for there. But the order, I think, is clear.
Distribution of subscribers' funds on broker-source locations is as follows (broker - funds):
Results below $50K have not been inserted.
I am not so good at visualization. Maybe, I should just write general CSV-file and put it here. Who understands Excel and wants to visualize - write how to do it, I will do it.
And finally, top ranking by subscribers (see Funds):
Top ranking of signals with the thickest (on average) subscribers (see per one ):
I've drawn these conclusions myself so far:
In general, the impression is that the signal owners use the service for a short-term scam.
One use case:
Neither good managers want to work for a fixed percentage, not a fixed subscription fee.
Neither are there any good managers. That's sad.
The service is indeed used by part of the suppliers to defraud. But there are also normal managers.
There is some strategic error in this service. They saw a successful scheme, a pamm scheme, and are trying to copy it one-to-one. No, on the one hand it is certainly true that many cloners are more successful than the original, but why do not you see the unique features and capabilities of the service? The opportunities for development here are gigantic, but the meta-quotes don't catch mice, at all. Damn, such business development opportunities are lost :)
After sorting by length of trade I found almost an HFT-nik... While I'm banned, there's no history to see.
What a high-frequency trader, 19 trades in 5 months, and both signals are repeated...
And he also likes to make deposits without warning, which is not good for the client, as his account is not automatically replenished.
But there are some unlucky ones out there. This guy, for example, fits many of the conclusions, but no subscribers so far. What could be the reason for that, I don't understand.
He is still ahead of the curve, he has been trading for only three weeks but he already has two new trades and will have more if he survives. It's bad that he closes his deals late and doesn't take all he could.