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khorosh:
There is no way to get the maximal drawdown less than 100 CU at Ilanistic EAs. It means it is very dangerous to start with 100 CU. Here we have better luck determining the moment to start working. At me on the pound test runs from the beginning of 2011 with an initial deposit of 100 cu.e., but the maximum drawdown is much more than 100 cu. So when you start trading at an unfavourable moment you are sure to lose. How is manual trading going for you?

It's true for illanists with small amounts is no way(

i've tried it with mm i've gone both ways, i don't care about the market, but the main thing is that the deposit increases, it may not be enough... but it works

I'll try Mini lot without mm this week, but I have to wait longer for profit (...) Besides it's not real to sit for 24 hours with my hands ...

I'll see if I can intuitively feel the market and just turn on the MM and close everything, i.e. bail out)

and like 5, 10 percent of the deposit is enough not to get too tired

 

I have a lot of fun with the owl... Why did you not like the owl?

i posted it with flying set and it doesn't fly) and with 50 and 100 cents, not always, but mostly, i just think its potential is higher than that of ilan at least i can tell by the test even on raw (at least i have something to risk and if i take not 100 cents... but 10 000 cents... imagine)

there wanted to take a new-rena but all as usual received an owl and silence)

 

so here's a quick one from the 12th month! lot 1

(I uploaded the quotes...) that's the way to go! :D

to a million in a year that's it but it's not working(

 
7Konstantin7:

It's true for illanists with small amounts is no way(

i've tried it with mm i've gone both ways, i don't care about the market, but the main thing is that the deposit increases, it may not be enough... but it works

I'll try Mini lot without mm this week, but I have to wait longer for profit (...) Besides it's not real to sit for 24 hours with my hands ...

I'll see if I can intuitively feel the market and just turn on the MM and close everything, I'll be able to bail out)

and like 5, 10 percent of the deposit is enough not to get too tired

This is the drawdown one can achieve with an illanistic EA, it is unlikely to be less. Well, it will be a little less when spread is normal; at the moment it is too high. There are only three orders in the loop and the minimum lot is 0.01. The profit is correspondingly small.

SymbolGBPUSD (Great Britain Pound vs US Dollar)
Period1 Minute (M1) 2011.01.03 00:00 - 2012.01.27 23:59 (2011.01.01 - 2012.02.01)
ModelBy open prices (only for Expert Advisors with explicit bar opening control)



Bars in history401827Modelled ticks802585Simulation qualityn/a
Chart mismatch errors0




Initial deposit50.00



Net profit608.58Total profit1035.07Total loss-426.49
Profitability2.43Expected payoff0.58

Absolute drawdown22.43Maximum drawdown214.21 (68.56%)Relative drawdown68.56% (214.21)

Total trades1054Short positions (% win)466 (82.62%)Long positions (% win)588 (83.50%)

Profitable trades (% of all)876 (83.11%)Loss trades (% of all)178 (16.89%)
Largestprofitable trade12.31losing deal-13.00
Averageprofitable deal1.18losing trade-2.40
Maximum numbercontinuous wins (profit)23 (15.40)Continuous losses (loss)3 (-3.74)
MaximumContinuous Profit (number of wins)18.90 (6)Continuous loss (number of losses)-14.53 (2)
Averagecontinuous winnings6Continuous loss1
 
khorosh:

This is the kind of drawdown you can achieve with an illanistic EA, it's unlikely to be less. Well, it will be a bit smaller when the spread is normal - right now it's elevated. There are only three orders in the loop and the minimal lot is 0.01. The profit is correspondingly small.

Yeah, it's better not to take the risk.

As for the cents, it may be interesting as a hobby, but not as an earning!

 
7Konstantin7:

Yeah, it's better not to take risks

I would not take chances with cents as a hobby) but if I am going to earn money it's better not to!

Well here is this option, if we had time to plummet to the initial deposit, it would be nice to be 100 times a year.)

SymbolGBPUSD (Great Britain Pound vs US Dollar)
Period1 Minute (M1) 2011.01.03 00:00 - 2012.01.27 23:59 (2011.01.01 - 2012.02.01)
ModelBy open prices (only for Expert Advisors with explicit bar opening control)
ParametersFast=16; Slow=22; Signal=9; LotExponent=1.2; Lots=0.01; TakeProfit=190; Pipstep=60; Quant="Pitch Change Mode On/Off. TRUE enabled"; QuantumStep=true; StartStepExpSrting="After which knee the step starts to increase by PipStepExponent"; StartStepExp=1; MagicNumber=133; MaxTrades=100;

Bars in history401827Modelled ticks802585Modeling qualityn/a
Chart mismatch errors0




Initial deposit100.00



Net profit5069.79Total profit7765.73Total loss-2695.94
Profitability2.88Expected payoff3.03

Absolute drawdown20.75Maximum drawdown872.23 (37.25%)Relative drawdown67.64% (165.68)

Total trades1672Short positions (% win)843 (72.12%)Long positions (% win)829 (74.67%)

Profitable trades (% of all)1227 (73.39%)Loss trades (% of all)445 (26.61%)
Largestprofitable trade161.48losing deal-34.21
Averageprofitable deal6.33Deal loss-6.06
Maximum numbercontinuous wins (profit)25 (51.53)Continuous losses (loss)12 (-273.66)
MaximumContinuous Profit (number of wins)508.32 (10)Continuous loss (number of losses)-273.66 (12)
Averagecontinuous winnings7Continuous loss3
 
Here he is the main adept of Point 6.
 
khorosh:

This is the kind of drawdown you can achieve with an illanistic EA, it's unlikely to be less. Well, it will be a bit smaller when the spread is normal - right now it's elevated. There are only three orders in a cycle and the minimum lot is 0.01. The profit is correspondingly small.

How about EURUSD?
 
And I think it's you who's stuck with your 6th point, it's been repeatedly said that you forgot to put an exit from the cycle? Don't you have anything clever to say?
 
khorosh:

Well, with this option, if you could manage to raise the initial deposit before you lose it, it would be good for 100 times a year:)

Well, that's cool.)

But it doesn't work that way, you have to think of something reliable.)

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