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I was alerted in one thread by RIV's words about codecs...
He called other people's codecs that way.
As if to choose among them successful ones and feed them from the hand, he already knows how.
But in general, it was interesting to look at. there are K Experts, they are deprived of 2% of the deposit every day. Who survived well done.
The more K and time...
>> goldtrader
The advantages are primarily in the problem solving approach, technology ... I will try to run through the main points briefly and consistently ...
1) tech centre ... i.e. physical environment ... we have several substations + diesel generator in reserve, industrial air conditioning, fire extinguishing system, security system with video surveillance, access levels, special security, etc... ... in general all for the highest grade and we can concede them only in the beauty of the building and office fit-out ...
2) servers ... they have Dell, we have Supermicro ... servers Supermicro I think more technologically ... although they cost us more ... we all servers with redundant power i.e. hot swap server power supplies and raid support for automatic replacement of non-working disk ... say they have similar because you can not check it ...
3) firewalls ... they write that they use hardware protection, but do not write specifically what exactly ... we use firewalls D-Link NetDefend series ... but in any case, even if they do use hardware, it would be a partial solution ... as they have a universal service ... ie to accommodate everything .... they give everyone a separate IP address and they have to send all traffic to this address and back ... respectively the security of the client will have to think about himself ... Ie about the hardware in this approach is of course too far ... Ie Intrusion Detection works maximum and all ...
We have a specialized service for only one task ... ie placement of only customers with a PBX ... and we do not give each client a separate IP address ... i.e. our clients are fully protected by hardware firewall ... hidden behind the addresses of the club and it is not possible to distinguish between the activity of which client ...
On the machine allowed only 1 input port for management (which is further protected by hardware firewall) and only the required outgoing ports for terminals ... for Metatrader usually only 1 port ... and set up each client individually on the firewall and is possible to set outgoing requests only for the IP address of the desired broker ...
Moreover ... the local network of clients is fully protected ... i.e. customers from each other are also fully protected ... all customers are each in its subnet ... subnets are cut hardware controlled switches which manage hardware firewalls ... and logical network, i.e. software network clients on one physical server, additionally protected by software ...
So our customer gets a complete network security solution and does not have to think about it at all ... just a real bunker ... i.e. if he listens to the network on his machine he sees nothing but his own packets in principle as if he were the only one on earth ...
4) connection ... they sit in Atlanta (USA), we sit in Moscow ... assuming that they have a good connection across the states, there is generally better connectivity ... ie. it's important where you want to connect ... if your broker is in the states, then their ping and path must be better ... but if your broker's servers are in Moscow or the Moscow Stock Exchange, in that case they can not really compete with us ... from them to Moscow ping will be under 200 ms and way across the ocean with a lot of hosts ... we actually have the biggest support network available in Moscow with a huge number of physical connections with providers ... including ... direct connections to providers ... and so on.including direct outputs to exchange points ... and very many servers we have a very short path and 1-3 ms ping ... to many brokers often even stable 1 ms ...
5) Traffic ... they have it limited ... the restriction is large and most likely ATC will not catch so much but the dog is in another ... they have to count traffic of each client, most likely implemented it softly, ie. additional delays ... our traffic to customers is unlimited and we do not even count ... we are peering and the cost of traffic for us is very small ... we only hardware firewall speed limit client depending on tariff ... i.e. hardware implementation and separately for incoming and outgoing ... i.e. if you download something to your car, your terminals work quietly ...
6) virtualization technology ... they use Virtuoso ... I have written extensively about virtualization systems including on this forum ... Virtuoso - virtualization at operating system level ... ie involves a single level of distribution of system resources among all virtual machines ... this provides a minimal additional load on the physical server and a very large number of seats ... so you get partial machines and remote desktops ... and they are managed that way ... but the important thing is not even that but how things work in terms of resources ... for example RAM ... you see in the description of the machine for example 4 gigas that you get with the tariff but this is not a real memory figure but a virtual number ... ie it says what the maximum memory can be available to your machine (under ideal conditions of course) not part of the physical RAM server ... ie.there is a constant and dynamic redistribution of resources .... i.e. your machine is not using all the memory, free memory is being used by other machines and everything goes back and forth ... all resources ... this is where all the problems with such systems ... the same stability suffers, security, machine independence, software compatibility, etc. ... no matter what they sing but these problems exist all the time and users get caught up in them all the time ... although of course for profitability for owners, it's an excellent solution ... customers can declare large numbers of machines and put them in a big crowd on a cheap server ... and it's very easy to manage as they can change their rates without stopping the machine ... so they can just use available resources and change prices. just available numbers of resources ... so if you see the description of tariffs "MHz", "remote desktop" then you already know what to expect ... although I look at the service, their tariffs are not even described pro power distribution ... masking guys ... :) .... The speed of available Internet for machines is not written too ... but the parameters are beautiful - a lot of memory and disk space ... and I doubt that their standard function of making backups of client disks will also make you happy ... :)
We use SUB-Server ... it is a hardware virtualization technology, hypervisor ... i.e. virtualization is performed at the hardware level by creating a copy of all system resources such as CPU, memory, etc.. ... i.e. each machine has its own separate and complete set of all resources including a complete operating system ... and all resources and everything is fully allocated to the machine at startup ... and there is no dynamic redistribution of resources ... only distribution of CPU capacity... i.e. if our tariff says that the machine has 512 MB of RAM, it is allocated a piece of physical RAM in this amount + this is spent on wrapping ... i.e. this approach results in higher load on physical server and smaller number of available seats on it ... but at the same time we don't have problems like I described above with other type of systems ... and machine discs are fully located in RAM, which gives significant boost to machine capacity, but again reduces available seats, RAM is not infinite ... although it is harder to manage ... you can't change a couple numbers on the fly to change rates, you have to change the whole plan
7) We have a specialized service ... i.e. all geared towards solving one problem ... you won't have websites, file exchangers, etc ... neighbours ... no one will block your channel ... no one can interfere with your work in any way ...
Developed a special system to automatically control the quality of service ... control network and machine ... + have additional resources the same ICQ gateway ... maybe even something else will appear over time if there is an interesting idea on the subject ...
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In general, ran through briefly the basics, maybe that missed, a lot of details ... and I think if you look through them thoroughly, then another thing would be found for sure ... and in Russian they won't talk to you, and your English is not very happy most likely ... not to mention that someone like me periodically on forums to make themselves clear ...
So not everything that's bourgeois is that good...
>> goldtrader
1) тех центр … т.е. физ среда … у нас – несколько подводов от подстанций + дизельная установка в резерве, промышленные кондиционеры, система пожаротушения, система безопасности с видео наблюдением, уровнями доступа, спец охраной и т.д. … в общем всё по высшему разряду и уступить мы им можем разве что в красоте здания и отделки офиса …
Without being a specialist, I'd like to share my impressions:
After 7 months of using imported (Atlant) VPS (512MB, $18=550rub) I had 1 down time of about 2 hours which resulted in 1 free day and 3 unscheduled reboots.
At the same time I have 11-13 MT4 terminals running all the time, resources (CPU, RAM, etc.) are taken care of. I can't assess internal guts, but I don't think that their firefighting system, backup power, communication channels are worse in Atlanta than in Moscow (different level of standards). Ping to Moscow 80-85 msec (a specialist measured it, although I don't give a damn about it). Hardware firewalls and other crap I can not assess, but I can not complain about that.
And the fact that on a circle in 3.5 - 4 times cheaper - it is obvious.
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SZY Yes, another interesting point: I ordered a VPS, like I paid (the data card virtual sent) and ... Got the server. On the next day I get an email that the money from the card ... that ... No way to write them off. Reached the bank only on the 3rd day, it turns out the card had not enough money. :) They were patient and trusted me for 4 days. I think they would not even have connected me without payment.
>> goldtrader
If we do not have any problems during the whole time of operation ... and I have already written that if anything happens, we compensate our customers a day if not through our fault, ie due to technical centre, and 2 days if we do ... this practice we just adopted from the bourgeois ... reboots are not charged, we have a complete operating system and if the client needs to restart it, for example after installing software, he does it by himself when necessary ...
Are not you confused by the fact that their tariff plans do not even specify the capacity of the processors?
And the fact that they do a backup of your drive as well? ... or do you trust "Uncle Sam"? ...
For the appraisal they have maximum Intrusion ... By the way, they look and write "Firewall/Intrusion Protection" ...
In terms of communication, they are not competitors to us in principle ... How did you get a ping of 80-85 msec and what kind of specialist did it ... Here's the trace from us to their site and it rolls on their own :
Tracing_route_to_vpsland.com_[69.61.72.230] over_a_maximum_of_15_hops:
__1____<1_ms____<1_ms____<1_ms__10.2.3.5
__2_____1_ms____<1_ms____<1_ms__89.188.107.201
__3____19_ms____18_ms____19_ms__te4-4-9-alpha.msk.citytelecom.ru_[217.65.1.249]
__4____19_ms____18_ms____18_ms__te4-1-21-altera.spb.citytelecom.ru_[217.65.1.198]
__5____19_ms____18_ms____18_ms__te7-2-pontiac.stk.citytelecom.ru_[217.65.1.194]
__6____30_ms___210_ms____27_ms__po51.454.ar1.ARN3.gblx.net_[64.213.33.125]
__7___136_ms___135_ms___135_ms__Internap-Atlanta.TenGigabitEthernet3-4.ar5.ATL1.gblx.net_[207.218.80.218]
__8___135_ms___135_ms___135_ms__border1.tge3-1-bbnet1.acs002.pnap.net_[64.94.0.18]
__9___136_ms_____*______283_ms__cyberwurx-1.border1.acs002.pnap.net_[70.42.176.202]
_10___135_ms___135_ms___136_ms__atl1-cust1.104.globalcompass.com_[69.61.56.202]
_11___136_ms___137_ms___137_ms__69.61.31.122
_12___137_ms___137_ms___136_ms__vpsland.com_[69.61.72.230]
Trace_complete.
I.e. trace from us and as you see we went straight through the junction at gblx and clearly visible transition across the ocean ... and from there to your broker trace will obviously be worse ... then on their site they have no service to verify the connection ... it is simple but do not do why ...
At the expense of hardware you have to understand that the cost of all for us is 2 times higher ... The state and customs ... the situation is somewhere the same as with cars ... So we have to strike a balance - either higher rates or increase the payback period of hardware ... and do not forget that the same RAM parameter is tied to the actual hardware, not the figure in the settings ...
Yes, and pay us easier ... from any remote places through Sberbank without any losses on the exchange rate and for the transfer ...
Yes, without payment we will not let on the service, if only a short test ... we live in Russia and have to deal with these kinds of requests - "let me see how that, to test for a month at least" ... ...
>> goldtrader
По связи они нам не конкуренты в принципе … откуда у вас там вылез пинг в 80-85 мсек и что за спец его сделал … вот трейс от нас до их сайта а он крутится у них же :
_12___137_ms___137_ms___136_ms__vpsland.com_[69.61.72.230]
Trace_complete.
>> goldtrader
Didn't you get confused by the fact that their tariff plans don't even specify CPU capacity?
Not confused, but don't care: they have 11-13 MT4 terminals, 5-6 EAs on each, CPU load 30-60%, price is light.
>> goldtrader
What about the fact that your disk is being backed up too ? ... or do you trust "Uncle Sam" completely? ...
What do I need backups for? After installing and running the terminals, I archive them to another one on my PC.
>> goldtrader
According to appraisal they have maximum Intrusion ... By the way they look and write "Firewall/Intrusion Protection" ...
I put my own firewall and antivirus, without even going into it and not trusting their protection.
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>> where as a dummy level user am I wrong?
Для чего мне например бэкапы? После установки и запуска терминалов архивирую их на другой на свой ПК.
That's right. History knows examples when "backup" service suddenly turned out to be not working (not for me, I am my own backup). Just when you need it. =)
I put my firewall and antivirus on, without even looking into it or trusting their defences.
That's right. You can't trust anyone. But why antivirus? =)
You're not running IE or surfing porn sites, I hope.
ps Also, by the way, it is very desirable to work not as an administrator, but with the rights of an ordinary user.
But what's the antivirus for? =)
You don't run IE or surf porn sites, I hope.
I do run IE sometimes.
I like to use IE to download my files as compared to local disk of my PC.
>> goldtrader
You don't care at all about the speed at which your terminals are running? ... just compare execution time on the service and on a physical server ... you'll see a big difference ... although everything works out slower ... but with us it works out faster than on physical servers, which you could rent for a comparable fee ...
They have no security ... your entire machine is completely open in and out ... so you have to handle all security yourself ... just get by with it ... our machines are fully professionally hardware protected ... and no firewalls for the customer ... ...
Quality of connection does not matter too ... neither pings nor path ... even the fact that across the ocean from another continent to reach the server in Moscow ... and we on the contrary, have customers from the same States that sell in Russia ... why we host them ... :)
On the backup I think you do not understand the topic ... the disk of your machine is backed up there standard means ... i.e. all that you have there is completely open to "Uncle Sam" ... this is a useful service for web sites i.e. something you have glitched or lost, and you ask to return it back ... even strange that after so many debates about safety and security of experts and trading systems, you just quite calmly lay out all openly to "Uncle Sam" ... ...
If you don't give a damn about all these issues and you just want it to work more stable ... I understand your main criterion of choice is the cheaper the better ...
We have a more secure and technologically advanced service ... not inferior to renting physical servers and in terms of security is unique and the only one at the moment ... Uncle Sam still growing and growing ...