MetaTrader does not reflect reality ! How can I fight this ? - page 10

 
Prival >> :

Alien Besda, sorry to intrude but I couldn't resist

Sorry but that's a misconception, MQ is not a charity or philanthropy but a commercial organisation. Yes at first like any business there was investment, but then it was time to make a profit. You get it by selling the platform to DC (or you give them for free?). Those in turn are not philanthropists, but hope to recoup their costs and turn a profit. Now a simple question. Who ultimately pays for this development ?

I think it is a big mistake to consider (sharpen) their development for the DC. First of all, we have to look at what traders need. The more convenient and comfortable it is for traders, the more people will use this platform. And the brokerage companies will not go anywhere, they will offer what is in real demand.

There will be 1000 real traders using, let's say, this platform http://nordfx.com/ru/strategy_runner_platform.html.

And 100 people, those who are just learning the MT platform - then the broker, bank, DC, etc. will invest in something that is in demand. That way he will recoup his investment faster and ensure his continued existence.

Knowing that MQ is developing version 5, could you answer whether it will be better than the one I gave the link above and in what way in your opinion ?

P.S. your platform gives too much power to the DC over the trader.

In any business there are rules of the game. In this one too. The power of a DT over a trader is one of those rules.

 
Rosh >> :

Your question implies that the platform you mentioned is better than the current MetaTrader 4. Can you justify its advantage for the average trader (not for you personally)?

Besides, you can look at how it was rated by 9 survey participants - http://elitetrader.com/so/?action=view&SR_ProductID=98


These evaluations by no-one knows what they are talking about:





So what? It's bullshit, not grades!!!!!

PS: 11 in one case, 3 in the other.

 
LeoV писал(а) >>

How can't you understand? - Any brokerage company platform gives absolute power over the trader! Because this platform is the property of the brokerage company and only the brokerage company has the sole right to send (quotes), allow or disallow (trade) anything to this platform , because the servers from which the quotes are received also belong to the same brokerage company. In the end the brokerage company gives you the leverage and the brokerage company pays you the money. What do you want after that?

Not all. That is where you are wrong.

 
Rosh писал(а) >>

Your question implies that the platform you mentioned is better than the current MetaTrader 4. Can you justify its advantages for the average trader (not for you personally)?

In addition, you can look at how it has been rated by 9 respondents - http://elitetrader.com/so/?action=view&SR_ProductID=98

The graphical interface is way better.

There are linked orders, 1 button rollover,

my favourite ticks.

It has open API - this, as I understand it, allows to process incoming information in other programming languages already known and tested,

placing part of the code directly on the servers,

"stock market" ...

http://nordfx.com/ru/strategy_runner_platform_questions.html

http://www.brocompany.ru/trading-platform/strategy-runner/

Rosh you are a very experienced trader, install the program and feel the difference, it's not perfect, but not everything done there is rubbish and not worthy of attention.

I'm not so sure about the quality of the program, but it's not perfect, not everything is rubbish and not worthy of attention. But I want to repeat once again, no trading platform gives so much power to a trader as MT. But i want to reiterate that no other trading platform gives so much power over a trader, no MT. Here is to me a horrible link http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=70582 and that's what the kitchens can use, i think you know about it.

Basically what I need as a trader is a terminal

1. as a reliable provider of quotes in a convenient format. Very reliable!!!

2. Guaranteed. 100% order execution (I send a unit command to buy, he buys, sell, he sells). And I am not interested in problems of DT, he gave me a price, I agreed, everything is settled. And in MT the interesting part starts here )))

3. Connection to high-level language, in which I will do the processing (matcad, matlab) and will be able to protect my program

 
Prival писал(а) >>

Not all of them. That's where you're wrong.

I understand - "blessed are those who believe". Where there is big money there is always the possibility of cheating, even with the most honest ones - read this. And all of them are not on the MT4 platform - but on their "honest" designed to fool our brother......)))))

 
LeoV писал(а) >>

I understand - "blessed are those who believe". Where there is big money, there is always the possibility of cheating, even with the most honest - read this.

I haven't taken anyone's word for it when it comes to money matters. And I read it.

When you have a transaction in your account that you did not make, you will understand what an electronic signature is and what it is for http://itrading.onlinebroker.ru/secur/about.asp.

When you see that your order appears in the betting market, you will also understand how it is different from the trading quotes given by brokerage companies (you need to give the possibility to connect other sources to the trading terminal).

When they crack your code, the simplest security that you have put in place. They will mock you in their personal accounts and send you their real-time quotes, you will remember about the crypto-protection

etc.

MT is good for training, for small accounts, just above the allowable threshold and problems.

 
Prival писал(а) >> When you have a transaction in your account that you did not make, you will understand what an electronic signature is and what it is for http://itrading.onlinebroker.ru/secur/about.asp

When you see that your order appears in the betting market, you will also understand how this is different from trading on the quotes provided by brokerage companies (and the only thing to do. give the opportunity to connect the terminal to other sources)

etc.

MT is good for learning, for small accounts, just above the tolerance threshold and problems.

I dont know, I trade more than 3 years, on accounts much more than $ 1000 and i dont see such problems. Slippage - yes, there is such a story, but you can't get away from it. I have never seen unnecessary trades or something else like that. Maybe you have to trade with the "right" brokerage companies? ))))))

 

I've had a look. Not bad. Although I see you don't use MT to analyse market entry either, so not everything I wrote above is bullshit.

Good luck with your work.

 
Prival писал(а) >>

I've had a look. Not bad. Although I see you don't use MT to analyse market entry either, so not everything I wrote above is bullshit.

Have a nice work.

The Expert Advisors are working from MT. I don't use MT, but that's not the point - if the broker wants to cheat, I don't care if it's MT4 or not MT4, he will do it.

Thank you. ))))

 
LeoV писал(а) >>

If a broker wants to cheat, then whichever platform is MT4 or non-MT4, he will do it anyway.

It seems to me too, that so far there are no such platforms that can protect the trader from the arbitrariness of the broker. MQ with its platform has reduced the cost (here I don't mean the monetary cost (I don't know), but the ease of use, flexibility, versatility, etc.) of entering this business not only for traders, but for a potential broker. It's no secret that there are just fraudulent brokerage companies (I know one), and brokerage companies that are trying to work without having enough capacity and knowledge to run an honest business.... But it is not MQ problem.

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