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If the real account is at Alpari, then I think you should test with them, but for an experiment you can also test with MQ.
Did you at least look at the pictures in the articles on generation? It's well explained what and how it happens.
The tester generates ticks. And it must be clearly understood. Since you work as a pipsator.
Your strategy "catches" synchronization with movements of MT5 tick pattern and earns. But in MT4 the model is probably different.
This is what stringo wrote in the explanation of such grails. And here is an example of vigor's implementation of the same grail .
Here's a talk (or rather an attempt) about the quality of modeling in MT4 - just look at three screenshots from the first post. And compare what awaits you in real life.
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So to make a further decision, you need to find the exact spots (a couple of orders) where the two MTs diverge. And determine why the orders give different results. Wrong place to enter or wrong place to exit, fully derive all parameters of entry conditions, etc.
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I hope you are not testing WOC :)
By the way, as a rule, after how many trades per day ( 100, 500, 1000 entries) does the broker put a valve for my pips strategy?
You've rolled me under the asphalt.
But the question is not closed...
I hope it helps:
Some time ago I got very euphoric about creation of another pipsing "grail" and was about to launch it into a real account and order tickets to the Canary Islands, but decided to cover myself in time and ran it on a demo account in MetaQuotes. For two months I have been following its misfortunes in the terminal.
The newfound grail turned out to be a blank, but not a complete failure, but something in between failure and success, i.e. it's dangling somewhere around the initial deposit. But that is not the point. I have the possibility to compare the charts of profitability of the Expert Advisor on a demo account and its profitability in the Strategy Tester. Here are the results:
1. MetaTester5 in normal testing mode shows fantastic grail results. This is most likely due to the fact that the algorithm of the Expert Advisor is unintentionally fitted to the tick generation algorithm.
2. MetaTester4, apparently, due to a rougher generation of ticks, gives a more random scatter and results are already plus or minus.
3. The most correct results (probably, I was just lucky) were obtained when testing in the MetaTester5 when setting the switch of the trade mode to "random delay", the coincidence with the balance graph was nearly ideal.
So when testing pipsips (by MetaTrader only) I use the following close priorities for reliability: MetaTester5 in "Random Delay" mode, MetaTester4, and MetaTester5 in "Normal" mode I would not trust at all(but it is only for pips!).
Can you share this "grail" for the pips collection?
Not sure how your request relates to the topic of this thread?
I hope that it will help:
Some time ago I myself was in euphoria over the creation of another pipsqueak "grail", was about to start it in real and order tickets to the Canary Islands, but decided to hedge in time, and started it on a demo account in MetaQuotes. For two months I have been following its misadventures in the terminal.
The new-made grail has turned out to be an empty one, but not full, but something between a failure and success, i.e. it is situated somewhere near the initial deposit. But that is not the point. I have the possibility to compare the charts of profitability of the Expert Advisor on a demo account and its profitability in the Strategy Tester. Here are the results:
1. MetaTester5 in normal testing mode shows fantastic grail results. This is most likely due to the fact that the algorithm of the Expert Advisor is unintentionally fitted to the tick generation algorithm.
2. MetaTester4, probably due to a rougher generation of ticks, gives a more random scatter and results are already plus or minus.
3. The most correct results (probably, I was just lucky) were obtained when testing in the MetaTester5 when setting the switch of the trade mode to "random delay", the coincidence with the balance graph was nearly ideal.
So, when testing scalpers (only with MetaTrader tools), I use the following approximate priorities: MetaTester5 in the "Random delay" mode, MetaTester4, and MetaTester5 in the "Normal" mode I would not trust at all(but this is only for scalpers!).
I get it. I too have Arbitrary Delay and All ticks. But the very question of my thread is not removed.
If mt5 shows a profit and mt4 quotes go to the bottom, what will happen on the real? Probably the real will go to the profit or loss.
Maybe mt5 and mt4 codes do not coincide (programmer did not do a good job, although the Expert Advisor is simple without indicators)?
I get it. I too have Arbitrary Delay and All ticks. But the very question of my thread is not removed.
If mt5 shows a profit and mt4 quotes go to the bottom, what will happen on the real? Probably the real will go to the profit or loss.
Maybe mt5 and mt4 codes do not coincide (programmer did not do a good job, although the Expert Advisor is simple without indicators)?
Maybe the codes in mt5 and mt4 do not match (programmer did not do a good job, although the Expert Advisor is simple without indicators)?
If you have the source code of both EAs, you can easily check their correspondence (especially since there are no indices).
The only thing you have to do is to open the descriptions of both languages (it's very easy to use the onlan-doc).
But most likely it is not in the code.
If in doubt of the quality of the code, ask someone from the community to reconcile the two sources - there are few outsiders who know programming. At least this option will check at once