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You are trying to inflate a bubble)
You are confusing something )) I'm not talking about superindicator anywhere. A new idea appeared, I liked it, I implemented it. On the basis of it, I had some thoughts on how to apply it to trading. These are my thoughts and I do not impose them on anyone, as everyone has his own approach to market analysis.
Just like your code is bloated.
Please elaborate here. What exactly is bloated? If you have any ideas how to reduce it without losing reliability, please speak up.
All I said was "the king is naked".
The fact is, there is no king. Why do you keep seeing naked people?
What I wrote about earlier in the thread about the Sultonov indicator.
http://finfact.org/forex/glossarii/indicatory-trenda-ma-i-ema
This is characteristic of all indicators based on direct averaging. And here is a typical example. At small price changes, we see a sharp decrease in the indicator readings (right part of the chart).
It can be seen that it almost coincides in form and even amplitude with the previous upward movement, only with the opposite sign.
Unfortunately, you are trying to give wishful thinking for reality. Even in the picture you have given, there is no similarity (just calculate the correlation coefficient, it will be far from -1), there is "some similar shape", but it is only a seeming similarity.
At the same time, it is claimed that bulls are winning over bears, and forecasts are made on this basis. And this is just an exit of old data from the indicator averaging zone.
You're jumping to conclusions again. We are talking about the indicator readings, not about forecasting. The indicator is designed so that it shows the strength of bulls and the strength of bears for some criteria invented by man (absolutely all indicators work in this way). And it was in this context that the statement was made: the red line is higher than the blue line - bears dominate. But that doesn't mean you should rush to sell euros for dollars. Get into the context of the discussion, rather than picking details out of it.
There's nothing to discuss. Even the Kalman filter fails on the net price, and here Sultonov's averager))).
Hype is such a senseless and merciless thing. Those who are doing something worthwhile don't have the time and desire to inflate everything.
It's amazing how effective mediocre things can be. How much time I usually spend on developing "worthwhile products", but never have they caused such a stir as this simple indicator )).
Thank you all for the PR, even if it's not white.
Unfortunately, you are trying to pass off wishful thinking as reality. Even in the picture you have given there is no similarity (just calculate the correlation coefficient, it will be far from -1), there is "some similar shape", but it is only an apparent similarity.
Again you are jumping to conclusions. It is purely about the indicator readings, not about forecasting. The indicator is designed to show the strength of bulls and the strength of bears for some human-made criteria (absolutely all indicators work in this way). And it was in this context that the statement was made: the red line is higher than the blue line - bears dominate. But that doesn't mean you should rush to sell euros for dollars. Get into the context of the discussion rather than picking details out of it.
I see, you don't even understand what the discussion is about. I'm sorry, but I can't teach you even basic maths. Try to understand for yourself what I wrote in my post.
Good luck.
I see, you don't even know what we're talking about. I'm sorry, but I can't teach you even basic maths. Try to understand on your own what I wrote in my post.
Welkam )) First of all, let's try to understand what you wrote:
You can see that it is almost identical in shape and even amplitude to the previous upward movement, only with the opposite sign.
That's what I don't see. Try to show it. All the data is available. The point is that the similarity is apparent.
And that's just Captain Hindsight:
A change in price values is when one value disappears (one operation is performed - the value is removed from the array), and then a new value appears (second operation - the new value enters the array). So, in essence, there are two mathematical operations, which for some reason are passed off as one operation. Logically, two operations lead to two changes in the function. Didn't you know about it?
P. S. Why is everyone so attracted to this simple indicator? You don't need to look for some hidden meaning in it, build some figures, analyse the similarity of shapes. There is no such thing here. As it was correctly noted on the previous page, the indicator is akin to a MA. But it is not a MA, of course, it has a different calculation algorithm.
What I wrote about earlier in the thread about the Sultonov indicator.
http://finfact.org/forex/glossarii/indicatory-trenda-ma-i-ema
This is characteristic of all indicators based on direct averaging. And here is a typical example. At small price changes, we see a sharp decrease in the indicator readings (right part of the chart).
It can be seen that it almost coincides in form and even amplitude with the previous upward movement, only with the opposite sign.
At the same time, the victory of bulls over bears is claimed, and forecasts are made on this basis. And this is just an exit of old data from the indicator averaging zone.
The chart is given by Sultonov himself.
I absolutely agree with you.
SMA has a symmetrical impulse characteristic, which gives the same response to a single impulse
both at entry and exit, only with a negative sign.
Unfortunately, for many people it is unattainable).
Absolutely agree with you.
SMA has a symmetrical impulse response, giving the same response to a single pulse
both at input and output, only with a negative sign.
Unfortunately, for many people this is out of reach).
Can you give a mathematical calculation proving this (symmetry and similarity of shapes)? So far just someone sees something, some shapes. But nobody has given anything on the essence of "reaching".
Can you give a mathematical calculation proving it (symmetry and similarity of shapes)? So far just someone sees something, some shapes. But nobody has given anything on the essence of "reaching".
What I wrote about earlier in the thread about the Sultonov indicator.
http://finfact.org/forex/glossarii/indicatory-trenda-ma-i-ema
This is characteristic of all indicators based on direct averaging. And here is a typical example. At small price changes, we see a sharp decrease in the indicator readings (right part of the chart).
It can be seen that it almost coincides in form and even amplitude with the previous upward movement, only with the opposite sign.
At the same time, the victory of bulls over bears is claimed, and forecasts are made on this basis. And this is just an exit of old data from the indicator averaging zone.
The chart is given by Sultonov himself.
Dear Yuri, there is no need to take the chart out of the general context of the postA https://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/214529/page37#comment_5793236, where a rhetorical question is asked about further price behaviour - guess where the price is going? If you have not guessed the correct answer, the price itself has given the correct answer: to aim at the level of 1.2000, where the decline started from, in the context of where the Bears went down, hinting the Bulls to go up:
I absolutely agree with you.
SMA has a symmetrical impulse characteristic, which gives the same response to a single impulse
both at input and output, only with a negative sign.
Unfortunately, for many people this is out of reach).