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What kind of scheme really works? Taking an advance payment without reading the assignment?
The second step is not a full prepayment in its purest form, because beforehand you need to work on the task, when it becomes clear that the task is feasible, then take payment. If you take payment without reading the task, yes shob you got in the customer a real schizophrenic or a complete colourblind, for sobering up:). And we had it, we've been through it.
I was much cooler! I could only dream of schizophrenics and colour-blind people in those situations.
I'll stop talking now, because it's for the best.
komposter, let me disagree with you.... Although everyone has his own truth. I mean, what kind of a potential client should we consider a potential client to be - bona fide or not?
If you put the cost of algorithms formulated on the ball into the cost of your work, then by definition the client is not considered bona fide, because he pays for the "risk of not ordering". This is what retailers do, for example, in terms of theft. We all overpay for goods exactly as much as the shop has stolen from us....
Understand, no customer will pay for the TOR. Exceptions, of course, there are, but we are not about them now.
So my answer is yes, every customer will partially pay for those TORs that you have read, understood, formalised (at least in your mind), evaluated, but did not do (did not get remuneration).
If we take the service "Jobs", every active developer spends time in it to read and understand new requests, to compose answers (even template ones) and to pre-evaluate. And the cost of this time he includes in those orders that do reach the stage of implementation, and in which he (and not one of 10 competitors) is chosen as the executor. I think so.
And with experience comes the understanding - this task is simple, there will be no problems, and this can bring a lot of surprises, this customer - adequate, and this one will edit the text 4 times an hour .... And then this "surcharge" can be deliberately shifted to those customers who are likely to use it.
But this is all lyrics. Write qualitatively, be honest, don't chase $10, and everything will work out!
Why should normal customers pay for balloonists?
Because otherwise a programmer will starve to death.
If you don't know how to distinguish a balloonist from a non-balloonist, you will work for nothing 50% of the time. If you evaluate your work expecting that all customers are "normal", you will get less money and will lose the desire to work.
All this is imho and concerns only programmers who cannot spot a trick in time.
But that's all lyrical. Write quality, be honest, don't chase $10, and everything will work out!
I don't know, some people do two or three $10 orders a day.
and they're happy. They don't have to work hard to earn money.
for a new hard drive :-)
I don't know, some people do two or three $10 orders a day.
and they're happy. They don't have to work hard to make money.
for a new hard drive :-))
Actually, this article is read not only by developers, but also by customers. Developers can read your words and say "nonsense". But new customers may well take your words at face value.
For starters, give an example (give a link to the profile) of a developer who systematically "makes 2-3 orders of $10 per day". - There is no such example, and has not been in the history of the Work service, and will not be.
And also - even a hedgehog understands what kind of advisor that costs $10.
Actually, this article is read not only by developers, but also by customers. Developers may read your words and say "nonsense". But new customers may well take your words at face value.
For starters, give an example (give a link to the profile) of a developer who systematically "makes 2-3 orders of $10 - per day". - There is no such example.
And also - even the hedgehog understands what kind of work it would be for $10.
You are flying into the wrong thicket.
There's a guy I know - I won't mention him here -
those who know him know, but I can tell you straight away he doesn't work here.
He has his own site and his customers.
And he told me (if you read this, no offence, mate).
that 2-3 orders a day he has from 10 to 30 dollars.
And it was written for the curious - not to bring someone here or to the open water.
or whatever you're asking for. :-)
Firstly, don't be familiar, we don't know you and at least we didn't go "you".
Secondly, do not mislead customers. It is impossible to write high-quality Expert Advisors for $10. To understand this, it is enough to pronormatise the time: to analyse the TOR, to write, to explain.
abolk:
Firstly, don't be familiar, we don't know you and at least we haven't gone "you". :-)
Secondly, do not mislead your customers. :-)
It is impossible to write high-quality Expert Advisors for $10. :-)
To understand this, it is enough to pronormatise the time: to parse the TOR, to write, to explain. !
There is an acquaintance - about him to refer here I will not - those who know him those know but I can immediately say here he does not work. He has his own site and his own customers. Yes, and in general blabbed to me that 2-3 orders a day he has from 10 to 30 dollars.
Yeah, those must be huge projects that only go for 3 grand a day! ("She only showers three times a day.")
And in general - that's really the problem. Many customers are misled into thinking that programmes are done very quickly. I've often heard: "You are here for 10 minutes of work!".
Windows98 was 3 years in the making (from '95 to '98). You will be surprised, but it was made by more than one programmer (I wish you were there then!). It was made on the basis of already existing Windows95. And what is fundamentally new in W98? How does it differ from W95? Smooth text scrolling and convex folders. 10 minutes' work!
Yeah, they must be grandiose projects that only go on three a day! ("She only showers three times a day.")
And actually - this is really the problem. Many customers are misled into thinking that programmes are done very quickly. I've often heard: "You are here for 10 minutes of work!".
Windows98 was 3 years in the making (from '95 to '98). You will be surprised, but it was made by more than one programmer (I wish you were there then!). It was made on the basis of already existing Windows95. And what is fundamentally new in W98? How does it differ from W95? Smooth text scrolling and convex folders. 10 minutes' work!
It's not about simplicity, it's about the amount of simplicity.
Here's the dilemma - if you have 10 orders of $50 or 50 orders of $10.
a month - which is easier to do?
Yes - sometimes it amazes me - the naivety of customers.
10-60 min. only to agree with him comes out.