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Sergey Rozhnov  

The images that you have formed relate to anti-trend strategies with averaging. The Expert Advisor has in its arsenal parameters that fully opposite positions. And instead of averagin it add positions to the trend. Then the picture on the chart will look different.

If select True this parameters in virtual strategies with Trend strategy:

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Chart EURUSD will be next:

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We can see how EA add positions with the trend, and close positions if trend reversed. 

I will try to generate files with the best strategies for these parameters in the near future. But you can do it yourself in Creation mode.

Roberto Cosimi  
Sergey Rozhnov #:

The images that you have formed relate to anti-trend strategies with averaging. The Expert Advisor has in its arsenal parameters that fully opposite positions. And instead of averagin it add positions to the trend. Then the picture on the chart will look different.

If select True this parameters in virtual strategies with Trend strategy:

Chart EURUSD will be next:

We can see how EA add positions with the trend, and close positions if trend reversed. 

I will try to generate files with the best strategies for these parameters in the near future. But you can do it yourself in Creation mode.

Thanks Serghey, I'm waiting for your set files !!!

Michele Manenti  
Sergey Rozhnov #:

The EUR USD movement was strong. And my signal has become a victim, but at the same time it is significant that this strategy (Strategy 2 based on the Antitrand Strategy) is safer than the usual averaging without virtual strategies. On my signal, several virtual strategies burned out, generating the closing of positions, thereby preventing the explosion of the entire deposit. Yes, we received a loss, but we did not lose the deposit. This will be possible when using the Risk parameter 5000 or more. The Risk = 5000 is set on the signal, and the drawdown turned out to be 50%, if for example the Risk was 50000, then the drawdown was 5%. But this is just for my example, there can be many situations, such as consecutive drawdowns, especially if we use several strategies, and losses can amount to a larger number, this should be taken into account and understood for every trader.

The riskiness of the system depends on the Risk parameter, which means the system automatically adjusts the lots depending on the deposit. The MaxTotalLots relative Value parameter regulates the maximum number of all lots of this strategy, relative to the Risk parameter.

For example, if for a deposit of 5000 and Risk=5000 and Max Total Lots relative Value=1, maximum 1 lot will be opened, then for a deposit of 50000 and Risk=5000 and Max Total Lots relative Value=1, 10 lots will be opened maximum. And for example, for a deposit of 2000 and Risk=5000, and MaxTotalLots relative Value=1, the maximum =0.4;

Formula is Max Real Lots = MaxTotalLots relative Value*Deposit/Risk;

This formula you can find in the discription: https://www.mql5.com/en/blogs/post/713891

As you wanted to demonstrate, my conclusions were and are VALID.
The "ANTI-TREND" strategy does not work and you have NEVER worked. I have been using the Smart Hedge EA for years which is based on this strategy, several times with Sergey I have focused attention on how to approach the market of this trading system regardless of whether it is SMART HEDGE or GENERATOR PRO.

I have ALWAYS tried to point out to SERGEY that ALL operations were in the opposite direction to the trend making impossible the ability to make profits, as I explained in previous posts in fact the typical feature of this strategy is to produce for a long time low profits and suddenly devastating losses making the RISK / benefit ratio unfavorable.  What is angry is to see how all sergey's EAs have valid foundations with a solidity that make his studies and developments the best in the whole MQL4 market, for a strange reason I do not understand why he wants to insist on this failed strategy "ANTI-TREND" that burns all his EAs including traders' deposits.

I ALWAYS tried to point out to SERGEY that ALL trades were in the opposite direction to the trend making it impossible to make profits despite the opening levels of the positions were perfect and strategic even if of the opposite sign. As I explained in previous posts, in fact, the typical feature of this strategy is to produce for a long time low profits due to the effort that the EA makes to recover all the positions against the trend, suddenly devastating losses arrive making the RISK / BENEFIT ratio unfavorable.  What is angry is to see how all sergey's EAs have valid foundations with a solidity that make his studies and developments the best in the whole MQL4 market, for a strange reason I do not understand why he wants to insist on this failed strategy "ANTI-TREND" that burns all his EAs including traders' deposits.

To verify the above you can check the published Sergey DEMO accounts to see with your own eyes the FAILURE of the strategy on which most of Sergey's EAs and its set files are based.

I still don't know after all these years what awaits Sergey to update his EAs and eliminate this dangerous and failed "ANTI-TREND" STRATEGY.

Strategy2 ANTI-TREND

Sergey Rozhnov  
Roberto Cosimi #:

Thanks Serghey, I'm waiting for your set files !!!

Yes, I am currently working on creating files. But I can notice that adding positions according to the trend requires a deeper study and at the moment it is not possible to get profitable strategies. Since large trends are very rare, and small movements kill completely trending positions after their reversal.

Therefore, at the moment I have focused on developing a strategy for opening positions according to the trend, from 1 to 5 averaging positions. If the opening is erroneous, then we close and remember, and when opening, we adjust the lots (normalize). But now I would like to improve some parameters, indicators, so it will take a little time to make changes and create a new type of strategy.

Sergey Rozhnov  

В советнике на данный момент два типа стратегий. Это Anti Trend и Trend.

Anti Trend - это открытие позиций после отклонения от трендовой линии, в направлении трендовой линии. Позиции закрываются при приближении к трендовой линии, либо по тейк профиту. Если позиции идут не в нашем направлении, то они закрываются через определенное расстояние и запоминаются. Как появится сигнал, открываются.

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Trend - это открытие позиций от трендовой линии в направлении отклонения. Позиции закрываются по тейк профиту. Если позиции идут не в нашем направлении, то закрываются и запоминаются.

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Michele Manenti  

Update on BACKTESTS :


Finally after multiple failed attempts, some results begin to arrive.

As I have already mentioned in previous posts, the developer insists on inserting the ANTI-TREND strategy in his T.S. that puts K.O all SERGEY trading systems.

from the DEMO accounts that I entered on VPS with the COMBO and Anti-Trend strategies not only a failure occurred, those who resisted still produced low profits with high drawdown.

The SET files that demonstrated the best approach to the market once again turned out to be those with the "TREND" STRATEGY (NStrategy=1).

In particular, almost all SET 7545 files have proved to be consistently profitable with very low drawdowns. I submitted 14 files set 7545 in DEMO, of these NONE in almost a month produced losses and most all with EXCELLENT profits.

It would be interesting for SERGEY to update some FILE SET introducing GBPAUD and GBPNZD with "TREND" STRATEGY (NStrategy=1);

The best results are obtained from currency crosses with GBP and JPY. I'm confident that Sergey will soon provide some updates that could make me review the feedback I posted regarding Generator Pro.

Michele Manenti  

I hope to offer a further contribution by revealing the TRUE NATURE of this failed TRADING SYSTEM, the only thing that manages to "generate" are LOSSES.

The results shown in the figure were produced using the file sets offered by the developer, there is not a day that the T.S enters the correct position, it would be enough to replicate on the contrary everything it opens to generate exorbitant profits. Although I had changed strategy using COMBO-TREND AND ANTI-TREND technique, the results are always a failure.

A 10K DEMO account almost pulverized, there is no CROSS that can produce profits, it is all perpetually against trend ...



Tanzhu N Tasim  
Still the best EA .Sergey is a big brain.Tips:not all FX pairs are goed ,use TREND and ANTITRENDTREND strategy and work hard to make own set files.
Michele Manenti  
Tanzhu N Tasim #:
Still the best EA .Sergey is a big brain.Tips:not all FX pairs are goed ,use TREND and ANTITRENDTREND strategy and work hard to make own set files.

If you do not want to see your deposit in smoke DO NOT USE "ANTI-TREND". I use the ANTI-TREND strategy with other Sergey EAs and I have achieved two results after five years:

- TOTAL LOSS OF DEPOSIT

- BALANCE BALANCE

I HAVE NEVER EARNED A EURO WITH AN ANTI-TREND STRATEGY. The maximum time to see your EA plummet is 6 months.
Use 7545 strategy if you want to earn something, the only pairs that work are:

1. GBPJPY
2. EURUSD
3. EURJPY

EVERYTHING ELSE IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.

SEEING IS BELIEVING.


Sergey Rozhnov  
Tanzhu N Tasim #:
Still the best EA .Sergey is a big brain.Tips:not all FX pairs are goed ,use TREND and ANTITRENDTREND strategy and work hard to make own set files.

Hello. Thanks, it's nice to hear sensible comments. Yes, the production of strategies is a huge work.

Sergey Rozhnov  
Michele Manenti #:

If you do not want to see your deposit in smoke DO NOT USE "ANTI-TREND". I use the ANTI-TREND strategy with other Sergey EAs and I have achieved two results after five years:

- TOTAL LOSS OF DEPOSIT

- BALANCE BALANCE

I HAVE NEVER EARNED A EURO WITH AN ANTI-TREND STRATEGY. The maximum time to see your EA plummet is 6 months.
Use 7545 strategy if you want to earn something, the only pairs that work are:

1. GBPJPY
2. EURUSD
3. EURJPY

EVERYTHING ELSE IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.

SEEING IS BELIEVING.


1) It seems to me he does not understand the advantages and disadvantages of the strategies. Also risks and structure of expert.

2) Five years? He bought it about a year ago with a huge discount.

3) He did not coordinate the set files. His goal was to get a negative result.

Sergey Rozhnov  

By the way: No need to focus on the M15 period, try M30, H1 on volatile pairs.

Also need to consider the possible drawdown or losses when using multiple pairs. And what will happen to other pairs in case of drawdown. Perhaps it is necessary to use FixedBalance so that the losses of other pairs are not reflected in the work. You can also play with the parameters of the virtual deposit and virtual lot.

If some one need advice, please contact me! 

Michele Manenti  
Sergey Rozhnov #:

1) It seems to me he does not understand the advantages and disadvantages of the strategies. Also risks and structure of expert.

2) Five years? He bought it about a year ago with a huge discount.

3) He did not coordinate the set files. His goal was to get a negative result.

You know very well that I bought SMART HEDGE many years ago, I used and tested the ANTI-TREND strategy with different pairs and the results were DISASTROUS or FLAT.
I have been testing the ANTI TREND for years both on the real market and in backtesting with 99.99% correct metadata.

Look, who knows why you do not have any DEMO and real account that attests to the success and operation of SMART HEDGE and Generator PRO with ANTI-TREND strategy.

I start to have some results with TREND strategy but it's still a bit early to make judgments.

Sergey Rozhnov  
Michele Manenti #:

You know very well that I bought SMART HEDGE many years ago, I used and tested the ANTI-TREND strategy with different pairs and the results were DISASTROUS or FLAT.
I have been testing the ANTI TREND for years both on the real market and in backtesting with 99.99% correct metadata.

Look, who knows why you do not have any DEMO and real account that attests to the success and operation of SMART HEDGE and Generator PRO with ANTI-TREND strategy.

I start to have some results with TREND strategy but it's still a bit early to make judgments.

You write here, this is GenPro page. So write correctly.

Smart Hedge has a completely different strategy. And by the way, it shows amazing results. On EURUSD over the last 5 years > 500% profit in the strategy tester on all ticks on default settings. Take this test for 99.9% and make sure that the test is positive. 

I'm not saying that it will be profitable in the future, but for 5 years it has shown results, and this is a good indicator.


Do you want the strategy to break even? But this can't be, the market is always against you, spread, commission, price jumps, etc. Expert Advisors area trader's tool, which allows you to trade on the market with a certain risk. It is possible to reduce risks, but no one can exclude them. There are no grails.

Instead of panicking writing nonsense about the trend and the anti-trend, offer your strategies and maybe I will implement them in this product. Otherwise, I don't see the point in your screams, they only push me away from product development.

Sergey Rozhnov  

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/409867

Let's analyze this signal. This is an anti-trend strategy on EURUSD. I opened the Drawdown tab. What we can see is that over 3.5 years, the drawdown reached 12 percent as much as possible, before November 2021. And there were also places with a drawdown of 5% during the year.

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What does this information give you?

The fact that the strategy is quite stable and has rare attacks of large drawdowns. I.e., you can increase the risk by 5 times and the drawdown will sometimes reach up to 60%, or you can risk catching a profitable year and increase the risk by 10 times. Accordingly, profitability will greatly increase and the risk of losing the deposit will also increase by the same number of times. In this case, you need to keep a small amount of your money there, periodically withdrawing part, in which case you will not lose the main amount. Here's the one of the a way to take advantage of the generator pro. Main idea of GenPro- is to reduce the drawdown attacks, smooth the line. 

Sergey Rozhnov  

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/409854

This signal by the way, from GreenPointAuto works on one pair EURUSD M15, based on antitrend strategy too, and now it has 4 years of history. I want to say that both strategies are may good.

I don't have a lot of signals, because I haven't dealt with them for a very long time and didn't have the resources and time to look after them.

Michele Manenti  
Sergey Rozhnov #:

You write here, this is GenPro page. So write correctly.

Smart Hedge has a completely different strategy. And by the way, it shows amazing results. On EURUSD over the last 5 years > 500% profit in the strategy tester on all ticks on default settings. Take this test for 99.9% and make sure that the test is positive. 

I'm not saying that it will be profitable in the future, but for 5 years it has shown results, and this is a good indicator.


Do you want the strategy to break even? But this can't be, the market is always against you, spread, commission, price jumps, etc. Expert Advisors area trader's tool, which allows you to trade on the market with a certain risk. It is possible to reduce risks, but no one can exclude them. There are no grails.

Instead of panicking writing nonsense about the trend and the anti-trend, offer your strategies and maybe I will implement them in this product. Otherwise, I don't see the point in your screams, they only push me away from product development.

I do not understand why you pretend not to understand, in the messages above we talked about ANTI-TREND STRATEGY and in addition to having said that it is INEFFECTIVE with Generator Pro, the same ANTI-TREND system I tested for years with SMART HEDGE without results or with TOTAL LOSSES of the deposit.

Your tests are based on 99.99% unhealthy metadata or DEMO accounts. Backtesting is known to give different results from what is reality. Try opening a STANDARD account with $1000 and trading the EURUSD currency using the strategy against TREND of SMART HEDGE and Generator PRO, you will see that if you are lucky you will not be able to do more than 2% per month with %DD of 15-20%. Those who use ANTI-TREND know very well that they will have small profits if they are lucky with LARGO %DD.


Opening a DEMO account of 5000 euros with a lotsize of 0.01 is obvious that it produces low DRAWDOWN, if you open one of 10,000 euros you will see that the DD will be even lower.
Just look at the comments of traders who have tried what I have just described to understand that I am not the only one  ...


Just look carefully at the REPORT you provided to notice the LOW RELIABILITY of the ANTI-TREND strategy (2 out of 5 with a DD of 20%, you also paused the EA in the months when uncomfortable positions opened waiting for them to be fixed in the following months without producing negative monthly payments.


Sergey Rozhnov  
Michele Manenti #:

I do not understand why you pretend not to understand, in the messages above we talked about ANTI-TREND STRATEGY and in addition to having said that it is INEFFECTIVE with Generator Pro, the same ANTI-TREND system I tested for years with SMART HEDGE without results or with TOTAL LOSSES of the deposit.

Your tests are based on 99.99% unhealthy metadata or DEMO accounts. Backtesting is known to give different results from what is reality. Try opening a STANDARD account with $1000 and trading the EURUSD currency using the strategy against TREND of SMART HEDGE and Generator PRO, you will see that if you are lucky you will not be able to do more than 2% per month with %DD of 15-20%. Those who use ANTI-TREND know very well that they will have small profits if they are lucky with LARGO %DD.


Opening a DEMO account of 5000 euros with a lotsize of 0.01 is obvious that it produces low DRAWDOWN, if you open one of 10,000 euros you will see that the DD will be even lower.
Just look at the comments of traders who have tried what I have just described to understand that I am not the only one  ...


Just look carefully at the REPORT you provided to notice the LOW RELIABILITY of the ANTI-TREND strategy (2 out of 5 with a DD of 20%, you also paused the EA in the months when uncomfortable positions opened waiting for them to be fixed in the following months without producing negative monthly payments.


"...you also paused the EA in the months when uncomfortable positions opened waiting for them to be fixed in the following months without producing negative monthly payments."

You're writing complete nonsense! 

Write down what you need? WHAT YOU WANT? I'll answer you, and we'll close this topic.

Michele Manenti  
Sergey Rozhnov #:

"...you also paused the EA in the months when uncomfortable positions opened waiting for them to be fixed in the following months without producing negative monthly payments."

You're writing complete nonsense! 

Write down what you need? WHAT YOU WANT? I'll answer you, and we'll close this topic.

Dear Sergey you will not believe it but I consider you one of the best developers of EA and if I am unmasking some tricks it is only to give you INPUT and improve your EA.

Pretending not to understand, however, is not productive, when you say that "I speak without meaning" you should understand that it would be appropriate to start behaving seriously.

Propose EAs with tampered reports that show MANIPULATED DATA in DEMO that in REAL market conditions are RISKY  ...


This SIGNAL that you show on your page once again has a VERY LOW rating and the monthly interrupted by making EXTRA EA operations to bring back the losses and manually return the positive monthly payments. In reality, if the EA had been left the DRAWDOWN automatic, money management and everything else would have gone up in smoke.


YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT UNLIKE YOUR SIGNALS IN DEMO THERE ARE USERS WHO BUY YOUR EAS and lose REAL MONEY, maybe because they have seen your reports with corrupt metadata that do not give any reliability but provide FALSE POSITIVE DATA.

You asked me to give you INPUTS to improve the development of your EAs, I have been writing to you for years before SMART HEDGE giving you various tips and pointing out BUGS, SMART HEDGE is a very dangerous BOMB and you know it very well, it is useless to publish DEMO reports with unreliable metadata with 500% growth, you know very well that on the real market SMART HEDGE does not from those results,  just read the comments of those who have tried and purchased it.

The revolution is now called GENERATOR PRO and there are EXCELLENT POTENTIAL BUT IT STILL NEEDS UPDATES THAT ARE SLOW. The first step is to ELIMINATE ALL ANTI-TREND STRATEGIES because they pose a threat to those who buy the EA and use this strategy. You also need more details in the EA's description and further explanations of how it works.

I'm here to build certainties and destroy ILLUSIONS, you remain the best developer from whom I will ALWAYS buy your EAs.

Sergey Rozhnov  

1) I have a feeling that maybe you have very little work experience. Or you haven't compared any other systems. Or you have some kind of hostile attitude towards me.

2) I don't give anyone any illusions. Everyone is smart and should understand that tests are just a test and it does not guarantee earnings. Good results in the past do not guarantee earnings in the future.  I have always said this very often and always.

3) The fact that you use this Expert Advisor in real trading is only your responsibility and no one else's.

4) You should be aware of the riskiness of forex trading. There are no grails, any strategy that you think is right will turn out to be a failure in another situation.

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