info about neural network system

[asaqaz]

hello, 

i have a question : some one know if there are a system like  Hlaiman (https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/6077)

this system allow to put arrow to learn the strategy ...my question there are some open surce free program like it that can be modified and allow to add indicator  .

 

if some one know some free software like this one tell me ...

 

regards 

[JD4]

asaqaz:

hello, 

i have a question : some one know if there are a system like  Hlaiman (https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/6077)

this system allow to put arrow to learn the strategy ...my question there are some open surce free program like it that can be modified and allow to add indicator  .

 

if some one know some free software like this one tell me ...

 

regards 

Specifically like Hlaiman, IDK.  But if you look on the net for neural net software, you will find lots of reference materials, and lots of programs out there as well, some free, many not.  There are many neural net programs out there that are open source, but I do not remember any that are specifically set up to work on financial information and/or trading.

[asaqaz]

thanks JD4 , i know there are a lot program to create neural net (encog, fuzzy,...) but  i looking for that was similar to Hlaimman for simple way to talk with the program (using arrow) but some free open surce to learn how it work and then to modify it. 

[JD4]

I have been reading through almost literally tons of files, and I am under an avalanche of information.  I do remember seeing some paid programs out there that will let you figure out your ANN, and it will code it into MQL readable format for you so you can build your EA externally from the trading platform.  I remember seeing either an article or thread post on this forum actually, https://www.mql5.com/en/code/9308, and it can be a place to start learning.

The problem from what I have seen in almost all of the information I have been reading is this.  While the overall concept of a neural network is easy to grasp, the actual business end takes a lot more work and knowledge.  I do have some programming schooling, so I have that part at least, but what is also needed is a grasp of some serious math concepts as well, for the internal calculations the NN has to make.  If you are trying to learn to be able to build your own NN, it will take a lot of effort on your part.  One place I have been reading at recently (hopefully management is ok with the posting) is http://forums.babypips.com/free-forex-trading-systems/15013-neural-network-ema-system-neurotrend.html.  There are also a lot of videos out there that many people have posted as well, some to simply explain what an artificial neural network is, and some others to explain the concepts behind building one.  I have a feeling that this will be, like mine, a long journey for you if you decide to really get into it, but I think if you learn from it, it will not be wasted effort.

[asaqaz]

thanks , i have found a lot of info about nn here and on the web , my question is more specific ... you know some thing similar (Haliman)? because im not a coder or an expert , so if there are some similar open surce program that work in the same way i will try to modify it and use for my purpose. i have alredy try some neural program with the Ann example in the mql5 web site , and realize some simple work .... however thanks for your link  and your info

[Ivan Negreshniy]

asaqaz:

hello, 

i have a question : some one know if there are a system like  Hlaiman (https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/6077)

this system allow to put arrow to learn the strategy ...my question there are some open surce free program like it that can be modified and allow to add indicator  .

 

if some one know some free software like this one tell me ...

 

regards 

Hlaiman EA Generator automatically create EAs and indicators, all in the source code - MQL4 and MQL5.

Any registered user Hlaiman EA generator can redistribute it EAs and indicators as the open-source software.

In addition, now tools has new possibilities for the use of neural filters to improve the efficiency TA indicator EAs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBk6ay-VZgM (https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/8460)

[Hely Rojas]

Neural networks are EXCELLENT during the testing mode. But to try for real ... they are not.

When tested in optimization thus appear the holy grail. But in real mode ... :(

[JD4]

Hely Rojas:

Neural networks are EXCELLENT during the testing mode. But to try for real ... they are not.

When tested in optimization thus appear the holy grail. But in real mode ... :(

This can be said about any EA, not just ANNs.  Every trading method like this needs to be tested and tweaked using forward testing (testing under real world conditions), even under demo mode.