jankela:
I do not want to disclose the indicator details. What I am looking for is advice from people...
I do not want to disclose the indicator details. What I am looking for is advice from people...
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Hello everyone,
I am working on automating a short-term XAUUSD system on M3/M1, and the problem I am dealing with is not really “how to find a signal”, but rather how to classify and manage the trade after the signal appears.
The signal itself often catches a real move. In tick/backtest analysis, many signals move quickly into profit, often around +1 to +2 dollars, and some of them continue much further and become real runners. The problem is that these cases are hard to distinguish in real time.
There are several types of trades:
some signals become real runners and need room to breathe;
some signals only give a quick small profit and then reverse;
some signals enter a choppy zone and should be closed with a small profit or a small loss;
if I treat all signals the same way, I either take profit too early on runners or give back too much profit in chop.
I am not looking for a ready-made strategy or a new entry signal. The signal already exists, and I do not want to disclose the indicator details. What I am looking for is advice from people who have dealt with a similar trade management problem.
How would you objectively classify a trade during the first few minutes after entry?
For example, I am considering metrics such as:
whether price hits +1 before hitting -1;
I am not asking anyone to build the system for me. I am mainly interested in how you would mathematically or statistically define the moment when a trade should switch from “scalp mode” to “runner mode”.
how quickly the first profit appears;
MAE before the first +1 or +2 move;
whether price returns to entry after reaching +1;
whether there is clean follow-through on M1/M3;
whether an opposite signal appears shortly after entry;
when to allow runner mode and when to simply lock a small profit.
The goal is not to capture the entire maximum move. If a day has a large total MFE potential, I would be happy to capture a reasonable part of it, for example 30–40%, but in a stable way. The main problem is defining a rule that separates “quick scalp/chop” from “runner” without overfitting.
Would you approach this through:
a time-based proof window;
MFE/MAE ratio in the first few minutes;
break-even / step-lock logic;
volatility-based adaptive trailing;
structural SL/trailing based on M1/M3;
or another method?
The attached images show the typical issue: the same type of signal often produces a move, but not every trade deserves the same exit logic. Some should be locked quickly, some should be allowed to run, and some should be aborted early.
Any advice on testing methodology and real-time classification would be appreciated.
I am not asking anyone to build the system for me. I am mainly interested in how you would mathematically or statistically define the moment when a trade should switch from “scalp mode” to “runner mode”.