Why won't I ever sign up for a signal? - page 7

 
Ivan Butko:
I signed up and am consistently earning 20-25% a month with a 5-10% drawdown.

You need to know how to look for it. And it is desirable not to be lazy. And even better - do not whine about the risks.

Hapuga1 is a great help for your search.
 
Rustem Bigeev:

All systems fail sooner or later. Some because of human error, others because the market has changed but the settings are the same.....
It is important how they fail. If it is instantaneous, then we cannot affect it. And if not immediately, then we can affect it. In the context of signals, if the signal provider has not stopped or adapted his strategy in time, the subscriber can do that. So it is possible to avoid the drain.
 
Ivan Butko:
I signed up and am consistently earning 20-25% a month with a 5-10% drawdown.

You need to know how to look for it. And it is desirable not to be lazy. And even better - do not whine about the risks.

https://www.mql5.com/ru/signals/287955
Торговые сигналы для MetaTrader 4: Hapuga1
Торговые сигналы для MetaTrader 4: Hapuga1
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Торговый Сигнал Hapuga1 для MetaTrader 4: копирование сделок, мониторинг счета, автоматическое исполнение сигналов и социальный трейдинг
 
Yury Kirillov:

Adaptive doesn't drain, it adapts....

Don't you consider additional parameters for adaptation? They can also become obsolete....
 
Vadim Baklanov:
What matters is how they drain. If it's overnight, we can't influence it. And if not immediately, we can affect it. And in the context of signals, if the signal provider has not stopped or adapted his strategy in time, the subscriber can do it. So, it is possible to avoid losing a profit.

That's why I wrote that there can be two reasons. The first one is the human factor, when the hand trading provider, for whatever reason, starts taking risks desperately, and you learn about it usually with a delay and when there is nothing you can do about it. The second one is when the robot, usually left unattended, slowly does its dirty work, and most subscribers believe that the drawdown is temporary and will soon recover. Stopping the trade is a human prerogative, both as a trader and as a subscriber....
 
Sergey Voytsekhovsky:

https://www.mql5.com/ru/signals/287955
no SL and this can be a problem for subscribers.
 
Rustem Bigeev:

All systems fail sooner or later. Some because of the human factor, others because the market has changed, but the settings are the same.....

Well, if the market has changed, so should the TS. Of course, during a crisis, with hysterical price hikes, not the same TS that work during a calm global economy.

My thought is that if the Provider is confident in his TS, there is no reason for him to bother with signals or sales. But if he sees that the TS is unstable, and now he is earning purely by chance - just the opposite, there is a direct profit to sell the signal or the Expert Advisor on this TS.

And that's why it simply does not make sense to subscribe to signals. The only thing that makes sense to pay money for is a freelance service, when you form a certain TOR and they implement it for you.

 
Alexandr Bryzgalov:
there is no SL and this could be a problem for subscribers.

Indeed, there is no SL used because the protection against a loss works through hedging with counter orders, margin restrictions and forced closing of positions when the set Profit/Loss for the account is reached.
 
George Merts:

Well, if the market has changed, so should the TS. Of course, during a crisis, with hysterical price hikes, not the same TS that work during a calm global economy.

My thought is that if the Provider is confident in his TS, there is no reason for him to bother with signals or sales. But if he sees that the TS is unstable and is now earning purely by chance - just the opposite, there is a direct profit to sell the signal or the Expert Advisor of this TS.

And that is why it simply does not make sense to subscribe to signals. The only thing that makes sense to pay money for is a freelance service, when you form a certain ToR and they implement it for you.

There are signals in the service that have been signaling for over 3 years and are quite successful. Do you also consider such as random earnings, or the instability of the TS?
 
Sergey Voytsekhovsky:

Indeed, SL is not used since protection against plundering works through hedging by counter orders, limitation of margin level and forced closing of positions upon achievement of set profit/loss on account.

A close order on the server (SL or TP) is executed faster than an order sent from the trader's PC.

and a whole horde of subscribers.

Experiment with closing on Stop Takes and OrderClose, which one closes 10 orders faster,

as an example, the signal from the Pipsatore Averaging can really drag you down.

see how it affects subscribers

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