Calculation of the slope angle of the trend line. - page 13

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Artyom Trishkin:

This is exactly where your misconception comes in. The angle of the trendline in degrees depends on the scale of the chart - which is what they are trying to tell you.

You are probably talking about the relative position of the trend line. But definitely not about the angle in degrees.

I fully agree with you, it is the relative angle here, and relative to the scale of the price chart, not to the visible scale of the chart display in pixels.
 
Renat Akhtyamov:

Gentlemen, falling or rising and where is your angle, how many degrees and how do you draw the trend line?

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It's useless to argue with you))) what you claim is just a fixed scale for the indicator, and a person sees any, that's all, and in the end it is the same, only when you actually see the angle that the indicator sees, but it will not be natural and not clear, and it is very easy to do that what you are trying to tell or did, but you can do it in different ways, one of which is to find the maximum price and the minimum price The same thing with time, here are the coordinates of a fixed picture in an explicit format, then calculate the angle relative to the price chart picture in all time, here will be the angle, there is no point in arguing, everything is relative, and even relative to what it is done, if it is done for a robot, then yes this method is better, if it is done for a person, then of course the pixel method is better.
 
ivanivan_11:
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You're just going through the motions, aren't you?

People! The slope of the trendline is measured exclusively in pips (price) per bar (unit of time). These are the primary, initial values present in the market.

There are no "angles" in the market. The angle appears when the trend line is plotted on a certain scale - each time it is different. Why do you need all these extra entities with scales?

Setting the angle of slope in the price change for an hour (or for some other time interval) clearly identifies the trend independently of the scales. It should be used. What "angles"?

 
Instead of "Angle", use the concept of "Volatility".The degree of volatility of a rate over a period of time.
The degree of volatility and indicates the height of possible rate differentials of an instrument.
A small "angle" is on the flat. The big one - when the trading intensity exceeds someaveragingvolatility.
By the way, another sore subject, trend or non-trend, should also be solved taking into account the averaged measurements of volatility.
Volatility figures are averaged from history, market statistics, as well as news for about a dozen years.
Where the Eurobucks is calm and quiet, the Yuan pairs are stormy with the same cross-carrencies. It is worth starting to measure all sorts of resistances, trends and targets. Why?
 
alexsis78:
Instead of "Angle" use the concept of "Volatility".The degree of volatility of the rate over a certain period of time.
The degree of volatility and indicates the height of possible rate differentials of an instrument.
A small "angle" is on the flat. The big one - when the trading intensity exceeds someaveragingvolatility.
By the way, another sore subject, trend or non-trend, should also be solved taking into account the averaged measurements of volatility.
Volatility figures are averaged from history, market statistics, as well as news for about a dozen years.
Where the Eurobucks is calm and quiet, the Yuan pairs are stormy with the same cross-carrencies. It is worth starting to measure all sorts of resistances, trends and targets. Why?

The angle of trend is "slightly" different with volatility, because trends are different, short-term, medium-term, long-term, and each trend has its own slope, what you wrote above is only applicable to the short-term market, but this strategy has a completely different structure, the volatility can be measured or applied by moving averages, and they will also show good results, but with a lag, like the volatility, to assess volatility you need to see it, and if you see it, it's already missing part or all of the movement))

attached volatility indicator if anyone is interested ))

Files:
_Volotility.ex4  15 kb
 
Daniil Kurmyshev:

The angle of trend is "slightly" different with volatility, because trends are different, short-term, medium-term, long-term, and each trend has its own slope, what you wrote above is only applicable to the short-term market, but this strategy has a completely different structure, the volatility can be measured or applied by moving averages, and they will also show good results, but with a lag, like the volatility, to assess volatility you need to see it, and if you see it, it's already missing part or all of the movement))

attached volatility indicator if anyone interested ))

The volatility indicator is available in everybody's terminal - it's called ATR.

You posted ex4, but where is the source?

 
Evgeny Belyaev:

Everyone has a volatility indicator in their terminal - ATR is called.

You posted ex4, but where is the source?

This indicator is more intuitive, and also shows the annual average volatility for the selected currency pair with a red line and the histogram shows the volatility of the selected candlestick period, why do you need the source? Take MACD + ATR perhaps get this indicator, and these indicators are in the terminal) If you need it, I can add it to the code base and give you the link, but to try it, ex4 is designed for it..., all according to your needs)
 
Dmitry Fedoseev:

Naturally, the price does not change from the change in scale, nor does the angle expressed in pips per bar change. But if you measure the angle in degrees... First, how do you measure it in degrees? There are two options:

1. You may use protractor against the chart (against the monitor screen). But we have already written about the influence of scale.

2. Through arctangent. But the length is in bars, and the height in points. What will be the result? What will be the result of points divided by bars? - There it is (slope expressed in points per bar). But why do we need the arctangent? What will it give? The arctangent will not give anything, because it will not be the usual degrees. It will just be a distortion of the value. It won't be a usable value. Points per bar, on the other hand, is a clear, tangible unit of measurement.

When height and length are in metres, then you can take the arctangent - it will be a familiar angle in degrees. By the way, angles are not always and everywhere measured in degrees. There are spheres and cases when it is measured in units of change in height per unit of change in length. For example - the quality of a glider, the slope of a road.

What is wrong with expressing the angle by the arctangent? Considering that it is not done as part of visual perception, but to get an estimate?

Has anyone tried to look for the angle (value for comparison) with a fibover?

 
-Aleks-:

What's wrong with expressing the angle through an arctangent...?

The superfluous calculations that don't make sense.
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